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14th January 2013 - The Worlds Newsroom (January 2013)

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RK
Rkolsen
I'm curious are there any rights restrictions when it comes to using fonts in broadcast graphics?
DO
dosxuk
I'm curious are there any rights restrictions when it comes to using fonts in broadcast graphics?


Yes - same as using them for any purpose. You can only use them for the things you've paid the rights holder for.
NG
noggin Founding member
I'm curious are there any rights restrictions when it comes to using fonts in broadcast graphics?


Absolutely. Typefaces are licensed, and you pay different amounts for your license based on your use. Just like music, stills, archive video etc.

However it can be quite difficult to buy the rights you need for some typefaces...
IN
Independent
Today's fun headlines on the RSS feed-powered ticker:
'Shadow Ministers Quit After Reshuffle' - which country's? Confused
'Where Next For the Price of Oil?' - I don't know, why are you quizzing me? Crying or Very sad
VM
VMPhil
'Where Next For the Price of Oil?' - I don't know, why are you quizzing me? Crying or Very sad

Maybe Kilroy's been at it again.

RK
Rkolsen
Maybe it's just me but I've noticed that when World comes back from break with the ticker up (on the camera furthest left to the presenter) it does a quick roll right for a second as soon as the sting plays out.
MA
Marcus Founding member
Yes it jumps back by 1 frame. It jumps forward when the break starts.

It's to do with the way the commercial breaks work, which involves routing the output through another mixer.

It's been like that since the move to NBH.
RK
Rkolsen
Yes it jumps back by 1 frame. It jumps forward when the break starts.

It's to do with the way the commercial breaks work, which involves routing the output through another mixer.

It's been like that since the move to NBH.

Why do they need to link it through another mixer? I'd assume the feed would be sustained as it sent to Red Bee which would insert the commercial on top of the BBC feed.
MA
Marcus Founding member
Yes it jumps back by 1 frame. It jumps forward when the break starts.

It's to do with the way the commercial breaks work, which involves routing the output through another mixer.

It's been like that since the move to NBH.

Why do they need to link it through another mixer? I'd assume the feed would be sustained as it sent to Red Bee which would insert the commercial on top of the BBC feed.


Not quite that simple. The core feed is the dynamic junction, fed by the main Red Bee Mixer, which is the base each region returns to once their commercial stream has finished.

It is only if no adds have been sold in a region that they get the continuous news, which is done by routing bypassing the main Red Bee mixer, causing the frame jump.
RK
Rkolsen
Yes it jumps back by 1 frame. It jumps forward when the break starts.

It's to do with the way the commercial breaks work, which involves routing the output through another mixer.

It's been like that since the move to NBH.

Why do they need to link it through another mixer? I'd assume the feed would be sustained as it sent to Red Bee which would insert the commercial on top of the BBC feed.


Not quite that simple. The core feed is the dynamic junction, fed by the main Red Bee Mixer, which is the base each region returns to once their commercial stream has finished.

It is only if no adds have been sold in a region that they get the continuous news, which is done by routing bypassing the main Red Bee mixer, causing the frame jump.

Fascinating. Somewhere I'd wish there was a schematic or a drawing showing how the signals and everything are played out.

Could the jumping be caused by the different mixers not being gen locked?
Last edited by Rkolsen on 7 January 2016 6:09pm
ST
Stuart
There is one thing I see every morning that has had me wondering.

At 05:41 WBR ends with a sting, and I think WN then goes to a commercial break until 05:45.

In the meantime, the WN presenter fills with an item of UK news. However, before the BBC News DOG and clock appear, there is always a BBC News box in the lower third.

It doesn't make any sense for it to appear, as there was no title sequence or sting after WBR, in fact there is a generic BBC News sting at 05:45, so the earlier identifier isn't really needed.
HB
HarryB
From what you've explained, the BBC News box remains on screen after WBR ends.

The BBC News box appears at the same time as the WN box - so both boxes show at the end of WBR, as World opts out into a break - UK News is shown and the gallery hasn't yet commanded for the box to disappear and bring back the clock and ticker.

The sting played at 5:45 is to welcome back the World viewers to the programme.

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