NJ
I notice on Outside Source they show this shot for the BOTH of the simulcast edition. It always shows the advert that was previously shown on the NC on the OS screen which can be seen. Why would they do this if there is also world viewers not knowing what BBC One is?
It might just be to act as a monitor to allow Ros or whoever is presenting to know when they are on air. Chances are it is due to the additional opt outs for world that they use the NC feed and cut in a shade too early?
I notice on Outside Source they show this shot for the BOTH of the simulcast edition. It always shows the advert that was previously shown on the NC on the OS screen which can be seen. Why would they do this if there is also world viewers not knowing what BBC One is?
It might just be to act as a monitor to allow Ros or whoever is presenting to know when they are on air. Chances are it is due to the additional opt outs for world that they use the NC feed and cut in a shade too early?
RK
I notice on Outside Source they show this shot for the BOTH of the simulcast edition. It always shows the advert that was previously shown on the NC on the OS screen which can be seen. Why would they do this if there is also world viewers not knowing what BBC One is?
From that screen capture it looks like that monitor is outputting the video for the touchscreen. I imagine they have it within Ros' view so he knows where he's pointing and tapping without turning and facing the screen. I'd equate it with how TV stations in the US usually have several monitors on each side of the green screen for weather. One monitor usually shows one weather computer with various slides, the seconds shows the second weather computer which almost always shows the radar image and the third shows the air check so he knows where they're standing.
Regarding the video is there any chance that they left the video player up and the VizEngine that's powering the screen wasn't reset and continued to display whatever was being played out from the server? Does that make sense?
I notice on Outside Source they show this shot for the BOTH of the simulcast edition. It always shows the advert that was previously shown on the NC on the OS screen which can be seen. Why would they do this if there is also world viewers not knowing what BBC One is?
From that screen capture it looks like that monitor is outputting the video for the touchscreen. I imagine they have it within Ros' view so he knows where he's pointing and tapping without turning and facing the screen. I'd equate it with how TV stations in the US usually have several monitors on each side of the green screen for weather. One monitor usually shows one weather computer with various slides, the seconds shows the second weather computer which almost always shows the radar image and the third shows the air check so he knows where they're standing.
Regarding the video is there any chance that they left the video player up and the VizEngine that's powering the screen wasn't reset and continued to display whatever was being played out from the server? Does that make sense?
DO
I notice on Outside Source they show this shot for the BOTH of the simulcast edition. It always shows the advert that was previously shown on the NC on the OS screen which can be seen. Why would they do this if there is also world viewers not knowing what BBC One is?
It might just be to act as a monitor to allow Ros or whoever is presenting to know when they are on air. Chances are it is due to the additional opt outs for world that they use the NC feed and cut in a shade too early?
Remember the NC is being originated, trailers and all, from the Studio A gallery at that point. World are opting in to that NC broadcast.
I notice on Outside Source they show this shot for the BOTH of the simulcast edition. It always shows the advert that was previously shown on the NC on the OS screen which can be seen. Why would they do this if there is also world viewers not knowing what BBC One is?
It might just be to act as a monitor to allow Ros or whoever is presenting to know when they are on air. Chances are it is due to the additional opt outs for world that they use the NC feed and cut in a shade too early?
Remember the NC is being originated, trailers and all, from the Studio A gallery at that point. World are opting in to that NC broadcast.
SP
I guess the prompter hood on the camera is used in the conventional way for OS for the script, rather than showing the output as is the case for the weather?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
RK
In an ideal world yes - where every prompter had their own output on the router. But chances are they just are using a distribution amplifier to send the same image to all.
I guess the prompter hood on the camera is used in the conventional way for OS for the script, rather than showing the output as is the case for the weather?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
In an ideal world yes - where every prompter had their own output on the router. But chances are they just are using a distribution amplifier to send the same image to all.
DO
Most of the cameras in Studios C & E have confidence monitors carrying TX as well as the autocue hood, which since the weather presenters can actually see the presentation in real life may well be enough. It's when you're using chroma key that having a large picture of the keyed result becomes essential for weather presenters.
DT
Rather than being a timing error on the gallery's part and given it shows the BBC One ident which the gallery has no control over, is that feed just the BBC One 'as broadcast' feed given the few seconds delay between the studio output and what is on the screen. I presume the higher monitor on the stand is studio output given the lack of graphics.
DO
It's not an ident, it's the end board of a trail, which the gallery will have just played out for the NC.
Rather than being a timing error on the gallery's part and given it shows the BBC One ident which the gallery has no control over, is that feed just the BBC One 'as broadcast' feed given the few seconds delay between the studio output and what is on the screen. I presume the higher monitor on the stand is studio output given the lack of graphics.
It's not an ident, it's the end board of a trail, which the gallery will have just played out for the NC.
NG
It certainly was possible in the TV Centre studios, though they didn't have additional on-camera preview/vanity monitors as some of the studios at NBH have in addition to the prompter.
noggin
Founding member
I guess the prompter hood on the camera is used in the conventional way for OS for the script, rather than showing the output as is the case for the weather?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
It certainly was possible in the TV Centre studios, though they didn't have additional on-camera preview/vanity monitors as some of the studios at NBH have in addition to the prompter.
NG
In an ideal world yes - where every prompter had their own output on the router. But chances are they just are using a distribution amplifier to send the same image to all.
It would be quite straight forward to nominate a fixed camera that could have its CCU input fed via a different router feed, which would only require one additional router output.
(However in many studios it is often quite common to be able to route at least one reverse vision and prompt feed independently for each CCU as router destinations aren't as expensive as they used to be...)
noggin
Founding member
I guess the prompter hood on the camera is used in the conventional way for OS for the script, rather than showing the output as is the case for the weather?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
In an ideal world yes - where every prompter had their own output on the router. But chances are they just are using a distribution amplifier to send the same image to all.
It would be quite straight forward to nominate a fixed camera that could have its CCU input fed via a different router feed, which would only require one additional router output.
(However in many studios it is often quite common to be able to route at least one reverse vision and prompt feed independently for each CCU as router destinations aren't as expensive as they used to be...)
RK
In an ideal world yes - where every prompter had their own output on the router. But chances are they just are using a distribution amplifier to send the same image to all.
It would be quite straight forward to nominate a fixed camera that could have its CCU input fed via a different router feed, which would only require one additional router output.
(However in many studios it is often quite common to be able to route at least one reverse vision and prompt feed independently for each CCU as router destinations aren't as expensive as they used to be...)
Makes sense but that camera would have to have a dedicated use like the one that's dedicated for the green screen.
Don't some newer prompters allow multiple inputs that can be changed remotely?
I guess the prompter hood on the camera is used in the conventional way for OS for the script, rather than showing the output as is the case for the weather?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
In fact, in the main studios can the camera being used for the weather have it's prompter switched independently of the others that are showing the newsreader's script?
In an ideal world yes - where every prompter had their own output on the router. But chances are they just are using a distribution amplifier to send the same image to all.
It would be quite straight forward to nominate a fixed camera that could have its CCU input fed via a different router feed, which would only require one additional router output.
(However in many studios it is often quite common to be able to route at least one reverse vision and prompt feed independently for each CCU as router destinations aren't as expensive as they used to be...)
Makes sense but that camera would have to have a dedicated use like the one that's dedicated for the green screen.
Don't some newer prompters allow multiple inputs that can be changed remotely?