BBC World News from New Broadcasting House

It seems that ticker returned to stupid RSS titles!

I wonder how long it'll be before a clickbait headline creeps in...

'Isis makes territory gains in Iraq' 'Putin stands firm on Ukraine' 'US Dollar weakens against Euro' 'OMG! The cutest cat picture you'll ever see!!!'

Someone mentioned on another forum that the updated ticker only appeared when they anchored from studio C and during GMT. I find it strange that the new tickers are only active from a certain studio or control room. Here in the US a ticker is very rarely inserted from the control room rather it's inserted by master control right before the program is sent out to the distributor.

The idea that the updated ticker is only in use during certain programmes seems odd IMO, especially considering GMT would come from the same gallery as the rest of the appointment to view output (Global, Impact etc), so it would seem odd that it's the only programme to use the updated ticker. Also, does World News not have a producer of some kind to update the ticker? I *think* the domestic news channel does! but it would make sense that World News doesn't as the ticker is always pretty vague.

As for the ticker being inserted by the gallery in the UK, isn't the difference because you often have local news, travel and weather in your tickers in the US? I know I've seen clips of Today etc. on YouTube that have references to the 'News 4 New York' team in the ticker, or have the name of the local station appear during the titles. I'm not sure such a thing would be feasible with BBC World News, as you'd have to have separate versions of the channel going out with different graphics, surely? Also, there could be some technical/manpower limitations, which is probably one of the main reasons Good Morning Britain on ITV doesn't have a localised ticker, because they may need extra staffing for it, and also I'm not sure the regions would all be able to produce a nice looking ticker, based on their variations of the graphics during the regional news!

I was not here during the day so I cannot confirm the studio C and GMT claims. The only thing I can personally attest to is that during BBC World News America they used the old style of ticker where it was just the headlines. Based on this and a fellow user on TVNewsTalk's comments made me think the ticker was inserted locally in the control room because the ticker was not uniform through out the day. If it was inserted in the master control room it should have been consistent through out different programming.

I assume if the BBC wanted to have regionalized versions of the ticker they already would have done so. They already have regionalized feeds which have different weather forecasts and different programming. It should not be a labor intensive process as the producer would most likely enter the text into ENPS or through a VizRT interface. There already have dynamic graphics in each feed which are used to show the different times a show may air in the across time zones across North America. Therefore I think it would be reasonable for them to have the ability to overlay a different ticker in different regions.

I may be overthinking it but I feel if the ticker came from one place it would be uniform through out.

Tickers during US network programming are inserted locally by the station. They use very simple character generators and can't really do more than a simple scroll, insert a local logo and some prerecorded animation. The text in tickers used during Today and CBS This Morning can be entered manually in a text file or can be automatically configured through ENPS or iNews. Prior to new graphic updates the networks send out updated configuration files needed so that the ticker will be uniform through out the country save for a local logo separating the headlines.

But aside from network programming the tickers on local newscasts are generally inserted by master control down stream after the control room. I assume they do this so they have a clean version of their feed for archival and other purposes. Using this as an example everything except for the large parallelogram with the names are inside are inserted by master control.

I believe the Lower Third graphics are generated downstream of the gallery. This includes name supers as well as the ticker. When they select a studio to air they also select one or more Viz engines and can route different versions to different places.

Because the name super on World often contains the name of the programme, it's quite possible that the Viz templates for different strands have the ticker set up differently. You could imagine it being a good idea for the ticker to feature more general news and less sport during Sport Today for example.

I remember hearing that they pooled the Viz engines but having the lower thirds and name straps inserted past the control makes no sense. That means the director and vision mixer would have no idea what's on screen or what they are triggering.

Why? You can still monitor the post-VizRT output whether it is inserted in your control room or downstream. You can take inputs back into your control room from downstream of its output surely?

There is a very good reason to have Viz engines keyed downstream of the studio outputs - as it allows 'versioned' outputs for different outlets. So the same studio output could have 4 different Viz engines keyed over for 4 different outlets (one could be ticker and clock free with just lower thirds with a "BBC News" logo, one could be this with an added ticker and UK clock, another could be a different ticker and no clock and a BBC World News logo etc.) All the Viz engines will be triggered in sync from the same data feeds - so the lower thirds will animate on and off with the same names, but the ticker could be derived from a different feed etc.

This is routine in sport - where host broadcasters provide data feeds to allow broadcasters to version their graphics. The broadcasters add the graphics massively downstream of a clean production feed.

BBC World News America is broadcasting from Los Angeles and it's from a studio. It could be the BBC's bureau or possibly a local station.

I don't where they are broadcasting from. The set is virtual and appears to be a miniaturized version of Studio B at NBH. I did like how they replaced the images of US monuments and the president in the with images from Los Angeles. They showed the Hollywood Sign, the LA skylines, the Hollywood Hills, the Hollywood Walk of Fame (showing a memorial tribute) and a dried up river bed.

[s]I wonder if they are broadcasting from the non PBS public television station KCET? In case you don't know KCET is a public television station (that is not part of the PBS group) in Los Angeles which serves as the syndicator and distributor of BBC World News shows to other public televisions stations (including PBS members) across the country.[/s]

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Sorry for the bad caps. I picked them from my TVE stream on my iPad.

They are broadcasting from KCET

Looks green screened to me, so could be coming from anywhere.