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Ros Atkins says they are filming bits of the radio version today for a promo. How do you know it is less than a month? I thought we only knew it was coming in early 2014.
Less than a month until Outside Source is launched on BBC World News, have we heard any more about it.
Ros Atkins says they are filming bits of the radio version today for a promo. How do you know it is less than a month? I thought we only knew it was coming in early 2014.
AN
I understand the people at BBC News responsible for purchasing the Mosart playout system (what were they on ? ) have left the BBC. Did they get a payoff ? If so I would like my licence money back please.
Will BBC News now be looking to a more reliable system or is the department financially broke from purchasing Mosart ?
I also understand nobody likes using the system as it is inflexible when it comes to running order change which you would think would of been the first question to ask about when buying such an important item. The only people I hear saying it is good are the managers but I guess as so much of our money has been spent they have to. I wonder if they will be next to be shown the door,
I doubt it, not at the BBC.
I would not survive 5 minutes in my job if I made such decisions.
I feel sorry for the presenters who are left high and dry each time there is a problem, and can understand why so many are leaving.
Having seen the mistakes that have been uploaded to You Tube why is it the likes of Sky and CNN do not have the amount of problems that the BBC News output seems to be inflicted with.
If people can't cope with the odd camera going the wrong way, then maybe they aren't cut out for working somewhere like the BBC.
I understand the people at BBC News responsible for purchasing the Mosart playout system (what were they on ? ) have left the BBC. Did they get a payoff ? If so I would like my licence money back please.
Will BBC News now be looking to a more reliable system or is the department financially broke from purchasing Mosart ?
I also understand nobody likes using the system as it is inflexible when it comes to running order change which you would think would of been the first question to ask about when buying such an important item. The only people I hear saying it is good are the managers but I guess as so much of our money has been spent they have to. I wonder if they will be next to be shown the door,
I doubt it, not at the BBC.
I would not survive 5 minutes in my job if I made such decisions.
I feel sorry for the presenters who are left high and dry each time there is a problem, and can understand why so many are leaving.
Having seen the mistakes that have been uploaded to You Tube why is it the likes of Sky and CNN do not have the amount of problems that the BBC News output seems to be inflicted with.
If people can't cope with the odd camera going the wrong way, then maybe they aren't cut out for working somewhere like the BBC.
GE
well, er, I suppose that would have worked for the old graphics.
Looking at their website, it seems that they're still very tape-based. In fact, there's a hint that they're recording stuff off-air onto Hi-8. Presumably they then need to deliver a tape (or one for every flight?) to Heathrow and Gatwick each morning, though that doesn't explain why programmes can be as much as a week out of date. Last time I flew BA long-haul, I think the programme was only a day or two out of date.
Up until a few years ago, N8 would use some of their back half-hours (possibly 0830 and 1530?) to do a short bulletin for the Heathrow Express, complete with namecheck and 'RECORDED' bug. I think this was delivered by tape too.
thegeek
Founding member
A year ago these bulletins were still coming from TVC (and the correct day's bulletin was being shown), three weeks later they'd moved to NBH.
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well, er, I suppose that would have worked for the old graphics.
Looking at their website, it seems that they're still very tape-based. In fact, there's a hint that they're recording stuff off-air onto Hi-8. Presumably they then need to deliver a tape (or one for every flight?) to Heathrow and Gatwick each morning, though that doesn't explain why programmes can be as much as a week out of date. Last time I flew BA long-haul, I think the programme was only a day or two out of date.
Up until a few years ago, N8 would use some of their back half-hours (possibly 0830 and 1530?) to do a short bulletin for the Heathrow Express, complete with namecheck and 'RECORDED' bug. I think this was delivered by tape too.
HA
I understand the people at BBC News responsible for purchasing the Mosart playout system (what were they on ? ) have left the BBC. Did they get a payoff ? If so I would like my licence money back please.
Will BBC News now be looking to a more reliable system or is the department financially broke from purchasing Mosart ?
I also understand nobody likes using the system as it is inflexible when it comes to running order change which you would think would of been the first question to ask about when buying such an important item. The only people I hear saying it is good are the managers but I guess as so much of our money has been spent they have to. I wonder if they will be next to be shown the door,
I doubt it, not at the BBC.
I would not survive 5 minutes in my job if I made such decisions.
I feel sorry for the presenters who are left high and dry each time there is a problem, and can understand why so many are leaving.
Having seen the mistakes that have been uploaded to You Tube why is it the likes of Sky and CNN do not have the amount of problems that the BBC News output seems to be inflicted with.
If people can't cope with the odd camera going the wrong way, then maybe they aren't cut out for working somewhere like the BBC.
I think the point is it keeps on happening with bbc news you don't see it happening at sky and cnn, it's because the Beeb have gone for automation but it only seems to work properly 85% of the time.
harshy
Founding member
I understand the people at BBC News responsible for purchasing the Mosart playout system (what were they on ? ) have left the BBC. Did they get a payoff ? If so I would like my licence money back please.
Will BBC News now be looking to a more reliable system or is the department financially broke from purchasing Mosart ?
I also understand nobody likes using the system as it is inflexible when it comes to running order change which you would think would of been the first question to ask about when buying such an important item. The only people I hear saying it is good are the managers but I guess as so much of our money has been spent they have to. I wonder if they will be next to be shown the door,
I doubt it, not at the BBC.
I would not survive 5 minutes in my job if I made such decisions.
I feel sorry for the presenters who are left high and dry each time there is a problem, and can understand why so many are leaving.
Having seen the mistakes that have been uploaded to You Tube why is it the likes of Sky and CNN do not have the amount of problems that the BBC News output seems to be inflicted with.
If people can't cope with the odd camera going the wrong way, then maybe they aren't cut out for working somewhere like the BBC.
I think the point is it keeps on happening with bbc news you don't see it happening at sky and cnn, it's because the Beeb have gone for automation but it only seems to work properly 85% of the time.
DT
Ros Atkins says they are filming bits of the radio version today for a promo. How do you know it is less than a month? I thought we only knew it was coming in early 2014.
The original press release says February 17th
Less than a month until Outside Source is launched on BBC World News, have we heard any more about it.
Ros Atkins says they are filming bits of the radio version today for a promo. How do you know it is less than a month? I thought we only knew it was coming in early 2014.
The original press release says February 17th
DO
85%? So on average 9 minutes of every hour are disrupted by automation issues?
I think the point is it keeps on happening with bbc news you don't see it happening at sky and cnn, it's because the Beeb have gone for automation but it only seems to work properly 85% of the time.
85%? So on average 9 minutes of every hour are disrupted by automation issues?
DT
85%? So on average 9 minutes of every hour are disrupted by automation issues?
The thing is people on this forum are making out that it happens every couple of minutes, the reality is however that it happens what once maybe twice a day on the News Channel and often has entertaining effects. It's not really much worse than N8 at Television Centre and does not warrant any more money being wasted on a new system. Yes real cameramen don't make mistakes as often as this but the only reason that you didn't get so many camera errors at TVC is that they were practically static in N6 and N8
I think the point is it keeps on happening with bbc news you don't see it happening at sky and cnn, it's because the Beeb have gone for automation but it only seems to work properly 85% of the time.
85%? So on average 9 minutes of every hour are disrupted by automation issues?
The thing is people on this forum are making out that it happens every couple of minutes, the reality is however that it happens what once maybe twice a day on the News Channel and often has entertaining effects. It's not really much worse than N8 at Television Centre and does not warrant any more money being wasted on a new system. Yes real cameramen don't make mistakes as often as this but the only reason that you didn't get so many camera errors at TVC is that they were practically static in N6 and N8
HA
85%? So on average 9 minutes of every hour are disrupted by automation issues?
I should have said 85% over a 11 month period
harshy
Founding member
I think the point is it keeps on happening with bbc news you don't see it happening at sky and cnn, it's because the Beeb have gone for automation but it only seems to work properly 85% of the time.
85%? So on average 9 minutes of every hour are disrupted by automation issues?
I should have said 85% over a 11 month period
DT
85%? So on average 9 minutes of every hour are disrupted by automation issues?
I should have said 85% over a 11 month period
So the equivalent of about 50 days worth of Broadcasting in the last 11 months were plagued by automation issues
I think the point is it keeps on happening with bbc news you don't see it happening at sky and cnn, it's because the Beeb have gone for automation but it only seems to work properly 85% of the time.
85%? So on average 9 minutes of every hour are disrupted by automation issues?
I should have said 85% over a 11 month period
So the equivalent of about 50 days worth of Broadcasting in the last 11 months were plagued by automation issues