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14th January 2013 - The Worlds Newsroom (January 2013)

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noggin Founding member
I think it would be much better if they skipped this "Live from London..."-part in the middle. Instead they should continue directly with the other headlines.


There's a horrible transition from the titles to the headline bed in that Newyddion clip - sounds very cobbled together. Again, the titles end in a "through to the studio" resolve, but then they run a headline bed that clashes with it musically. Sounded like a mistake.
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guest03
I like this transition. I think it sounds very cool Wink
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myan
A few points to raise from that opening,
Martine Dennis is working on BBC World long enough to know that you're not supposed to make reference to the time of day as the program is being broadcast around the world so it's not 'Morning' everywhere.
The couple of other times I've seen this new opening, the business presenter walks off the set by turning to their right, where was Alice going by turning to her left?
The noise of the shoes is distracting when the anchor is reading the top story, Business presenter should remain in place until the first report is being played. I'm pretty sure that's how it's done upstairs in Studio E at the TOTH

Martine's morning term has become somewhat like a signature of her nowadays, I don't know why the producers didn't correct her. Maybe it gives some sense of identity from where the news is coming from or it just gives her an identity much like Nik Gowing's 'You're with BBC World News, with me Nik Gowing'. Then again, agree that global viewers will feel out of touch with the specific day reference.

rob posted:
Here you go myan...


Oh, thanks. A good capture.


Bit of a mess isn't it?

The titles so heavily signify "end of headlines - start of bulletin" by now - they need a different theme (shorter as well) that doesn't carry that grammatical baggage - that's less "final" - if they are going into further headlines.

The camera in shot for the opening wide off the titles is neither one thing nor the other. Looks like a mistake. Either feature it more so it looks like a statement or don't feature it.

The pictures on the business headline are screaming out to come full frame after initially appearing in the plasma. Either you want to show pictures or you don't - making them tiny on-screen doesn't help tell the story - it is just "we've got a swanky studio" posing.

The domestic Ten O'Clock News does the single-headline followed my multiple-headline thing much better.

Do agree there that it seems rather messy. I'm starting to think they should create another animation to accompany the secondary short music theme to give a more distinct transition. Probably they wouldn't want to repeat the first one, but two animations for an opening seems like an overkill, unless the second is a really brief one. Overall, didn't really see much attractiveness about this change. The previous style was quite elegant too. By having a single presenter on the news desk, it looks like a regular bulletin. On the other hand, someone mentioned the motivation for this is to go retro 'World Today' style. The one distinction I can see now is from the biz presenter where she gets a bit more focus.
Last edited by myan on 30 September 2013 2:20pm - 11 times in total
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flaziola
myan posted:

Do agree there that it seems rather messy. I'm starting to think they should create another animation to accompany the secondary short music theme to give a more distinct transition. Probably they wouldn't want to repeat the first one, but two animations for an opening seems like an overkill, unless the second is a really brief one. Overall, didn't really see much attractiveness about this change. The previous style was quite elegant too. By having a single presenter on the news desk, it looks like a regular bulletin. On the other hand, someone mentioned the motivation for this is to go retro 'World Today' style. The one distinction I can see now is from the biz presenter where she gets a bit more focus.
There is one already available to them if they want, at the end of the headline recap after a BBC One bulletin you get this short form globe formation with the exact same music sting they are using now.
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myan
myan posted:

Do agree there that it seems rather messy. I'm starting to think they should create another animation to accompany the secondary short music theme to give a more distinct transition. Probably they wouldn't want to repeat the first one, but two animations for an opening seems like an overkill, unless the second is a really brief one. Overall, didn't really see much attractiveness about this change. The previous style was quite elegant too. By having a single presenter on the news desk, it looks like a regular bulletin. On the other hand, someone mentioned the motivation for this is to go retro 'World Today' style. The one distinction I can see now is from the biz presenter where she gets a bit more focus.
There is one already available to them if they want, at the end of the headline recap after a BBC One bulletin you get this short form globe formation with the exact same music sting they are using now.


I guess they could use it then, have not seen that animation you mentioned there.

Meanwhile, some other changes had been taking place across BBCWN. Newsday now incorporates a newspaper headline run-through of Asian papers.
DK
DanielK
My recut version of the 5am open. I've cut down the titles and replaced some music. I don't count this as a mock so I wont enter it into The Gallery. The music tracks I've used is in the description.

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rob Founding member
Might help if we can see the video...
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DanielK
rob posted:
Might help if we can see the video...


Fixed.
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oflahertya
At the Beginning it was like a News at 10 Promo. After the 'Titles' The music was too loud to hear what Alice and Martine were saying
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Critique
At the Beginning it was like a News at 10 Promo. After the 'Titles' The music was too loud to hear what Alice and Martine were saying


I believe that was to cover up the existing music underneath. I don't think Mr. K would plan on it always being that loud.
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DanielK
At the Beginning it was like a News at 10 Promo. After the 'Titles' The music was too loud to hear what Alice and Martine were saying


I believe that was to cover up the existing music underneath. I don't think Mr. K would plan on it always being that loud.


Yes, I wouldn't plan on it being so loud and I'd also have a flash of some sort to transition from news to business. The video description says exactly what I used.
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oflahertya
Thanks, I have seen that now (I was watching straight from TVF).

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