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IL
i-lied
flaziola posted:
The SNT Three posted:
They just played the later part of the titles (with the Mishal V/O) and went straight to the presenters. They've gone flat out on the Trump-Kim Jong Un meeting, so I guess it would have been pointless to do the headlines.

They always do that if presentation isn't being shared from Singapore and London, either because one is closed or one of them is in another location like Washington for example.


It went straight from the countdown to titles to Kasia and Rico. No headlines whatsoever.
ST
Stuart
Unusually long end sequence to 'The Briefing' this morning. We got to hear most of the title music.
AL
ALV
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Just in case if anyone haven't caught up with this week's edition of "Click", Ben Thompson did a skit of reporting "Breaking News" on robots taking over BBC reporters in this episode! The lower thirds looks much more realistic than the skit Simon Mccoy did on Click before...

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itsrobert Founding member
Tell me about it! I was on my PC and had the TV on muted next to me. I just happened to be watching as that massive BREAKING NEWS strap appeared and it cut from Click to Ben Thompson. I nearly sh*t myself and quickly unmuted it to see what was so important that they interrupted Click from the BBC World studio. Imagine my surprise when I discovered he was talking to a robot. I appreciate that it was just a bit of a skit, but it would have been better to make it a bit more distinctive from the actual news branding, especially since we're all probably waiting for a missile strike from Russia!
BK
bkman1990
The only difference given away in that clip with Ben Thompson is that the backdrop in C was shown in daytime instead of night time. Then I realized that watching it on BBC News HD at 1:30 in the morning & was not a genuine breaking news story. It was a skit done for fun. It happens when it happens. I like that it looked very realistic. These skits have been done in Studio E before with Clive Myrie & Sophie Raworth in the past. The thing I would ask is that would more filming of skits ever be done inside the BBC News sets for Click in the future? That could be good but they could be doing it because of having to fill more time in the show.
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itsrobert Founding member
Yes, although I was watching it at 12.30pm on Saturday - so not much of a giveaway. That's fine if they want to have a bit of fun and do some skits, but I think it is important to differentiate it from the usual presentation. A great number of viewers will not be as aware as us lot - and with the TV muted, it really did fool me without having any context. I genuinely did think for a moment that something terrible had happened until I turned the sound up and the robots appeared.
RK
Rkolsen
Now did the skits studio segment come from a completely seperate setup (external cameras and graphics) or did they record the skit using studio cameras and automation? Did they even use the VizRT engines to generate the lower thirds?
NG
noggin Founding member
Rkolsen posted:
Now did the skits studio segment come from a completely seperate setup (external cameras and graphics) or did they record the skit using studio cameras and automation? Did they even use the VizRT engines to generate the lower thirds?


Pretty certain Click will have used existing cameras, sound and automation, but the screen content looks to have been keyed in post, as you can see a reflection in the desk of alternative content (with text on it) in that grab can't you?

I'd expect them to have either taken the Viz content as-live as part of the recording, recorded them as key and fill separately, or given Click the assets. I suspect the first option is the most likely.
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
It did make me sit up when I saw it over the weekend.

The thing is, News probably wouldn't let a production from another part of the BBC do something like that, there'd have to be something to make it immediately obvious that it wasn't a real interruption.
RK
Rkolsen
noggin posted:
Rkolsen posted:
Now did the skits studio segment come from a completely seperate setup (external cameras and graphics) or did they record the skit using studio cameras and automation? Did they even use the VizRT engines to generate the lower thirds?


Pretty certain Click will have used existing cameras, sound and automation, but the screen content looks to have been keyed in post, as you can see a reflection in the desk of alternative content (with text on it) in that grab can't you?

I'd expect them to have either taken the Viz content as-live as part of the recording, recorded them as key and fill separately, or given Click the assets. I suspect the first option is the most likely.


Yeah. The desks reflection has the breaking news graphic on it.

I assume putting a green graphic on the screen would be very noticeable in the reflection on the desk. Sometimes the presenters and the desk get reflections that’s to me look blue or sometimes green.
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noggin Founding member
Rkolsen posted:

I assume putting a green graphic on the screen would be very noticeable in the reflection on the desk. Sometimes the presenters and the desk get reflections that’s to me look blue or sometimes green.


Naturally at certain angles, acrylic can have a greenish hue on reflections.
NJ
news junkie
noggin posted:
Rkolsen posted:

I assume putting a green graphic on the screen would be very noticeable in the reflection on the desk. Sometimes the presenters and the desk get reflections that’s to me look blue or sometimes green.


Naturally at certain angles, acrylic can have a greenish hue on reflections.


Yeah, in Reporting Scotland's old set they used to key out the red wall to use as a screen. They done a good job, but as Noggin said red hue made it's way on to the desk.

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