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noggin14,163 posts since 26 Jun 2001
So I was watching Jurassic World 2 (it was rubbish) but I was just wondering how Studio C would have been set up to be used in a brief clip for the movie. Would the cameras be the usual or would the film company use their own? And if they are the usual cameras, how do they change the aspect ratio? And whatever happened to making the ticker and astons different enough that you can spot it's not a real broadcast. (think Doctor Who back in the 9th 10th Doctor eras) This looks like the real thing here.
(6:20 into this clip)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btASKkhajEM


Normally you'd shoot using the studio cameras so that it looks as authentic as possible (3 chip 2/3" CCD studio cameras have a very different 'look' to large single-sensor CMOS 'movie' cameras), and also to ensure it is recorded as quickly as possible (Movie-style shooting would usually take too much time). It also allows you to use on-camera prompts easily.

I'm not saying this is definitely the case for the Jurassic World 2 clip - but it has been for other similar shoots AIUI.

If there are elements of 'behind the scenes' 'off camera' filming, those would be shot on movie cameras usually.

I can't comment on whether there are any rules about use of graphics, studios, presenters these days. In the old days the rule of thumb was that you could use an actor on a real set (so it didn't look real), or a real newsreader on a fake set (so it didn't look real).

However ISTR that one series of Spooks used Sky News rather than BBC News throughout (as Sky would allow the use of real newsreaders on a real set for added realism) and then the BBC's approach for subsequent shoots seem to change...

Would you shoot at 1080p?

Additionally would the on screen graphics be added later (with the correct files) or as recorded from C’s gallery?


You might shoot at 1080p if you have cameras capable of it.

However the NBH studios have first-gen triax HSC300s which only shoot at 1080i or 720p and don't have a 1080p option (1080p was an additional cost option on the later versions of the HSC300 range like the R and RF, but the original model doesn't have that option, and the BBC wouldn't have a business need to purchase it even if they did have the later models)

Film companies will do a decent deinterlace in post.
bilky asko5,327 posts since 9 Sep 2006
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
So I was watching Jurassic World 2 (it was rubbish) but I was just wondering how Studio C would have been set up to be used in a brief clip for the movie. Would the cameras be the usual or would the film company use their own? And if they are the usual cameras, how do they change the aspect ratio? And whatever happened to making the ticker and astons different enough that you can spot it's not a real broadcast. (think Doctor Who back in the 9th 10th Doctor eras) This looks like the real thing here.
(6:20 into this clip)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btASKkhajEM


The graphics animate incorrectly, and the ticker is far too slow. It's definitely a recreation.
Independent192 posts since 5 Jun 2014
BBC World
So I was watching Jurassic World 2 (it was rubbish) but I was just wondering how Studio C would have been set up to be used in a brief clip for the movie. Would the cameras be the usual or would the film company use their own? And if they are the usual cameras, how do they change the aspect ratio? And whatever happened to making the ticker and astons different enough that you can spot it's not a real broadcast . (think Doctor Who back in the 9th 10th Doctor eras) This looks like the real thing here.
(6:20 into this clip)

You know it wasn't a real broadcast because the headlines were properly written. None were along the lines of "The moment event x happened", "Meet the person who did action y" or "Why is y actually z?" That's how you know. Laughing
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noggin14,163 posts since 26 Jun 2001
So I was watching Jurassic World 2 (it was rubbish) but I was just wondering how Studio C would have been set up to be used in a brief clip for the movie. Would the cameras be the usual or would the film company use their own? And if they are the usual cameras, how do they change the aspect ratio? And whatever happened to making the ticker and astons different enough that you can spot it's not a real broadcast. (think Doctor Who back in the 9th 10th Doctor eras) This looks like the real thing here.
(6:20 into this clip)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btASKkhajEM


The graphics animate incorrectly, and the ticker is far too slow. It's definitely a recreation.


Yes - movies will often add their own graphics to increase the resolution, or because they want to ensure the animation works in the edit. (Or just because they haven't decided what the graphics will say at the point of recording)
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SuperSajuuk223 posts since 24 Feb 2018
STV North Reporting Scotland
As soon as they switched over to Mariko Oi in Christchurch after the weather, just before 00.30am, there was a technical issue about recovering data from a memory card. Unusual issue and one i’ve rarely seen before, they eventually returned to her before the live feed began.
AlexS645 posts since 19 Oct 2016
Central (East) Midlands Today
Is Outside Source on at 8.00pm UK time because America has shifted an hour, and will go back to 9.00pm when we go forward?


I think NC normally takes the first of two hours but because it's starting an hour earlier they have the option to take both at the moment and so have done yesterday and today at least.

OS is usually the 8 and 9pm UK time bulletins on world. For the last 2 weeks it has not been going out on World at 9pk UK time but rather 8pm and 10pm.
noggin14,163 posts since 26 Jun 2001
As soon as they switched over to Mariko Oi in Christchurch after the weather, just before 00.30am, there was a technical issue about recovering data from a memory card. Unusual issue and one i’ve rarely seen before, they eventually returned to her before the live feed began.


Do you mean the camera being used to cover Mariko went into a menu mode showing thumbnails of clips?

If so that's a result of the camcorder going into replay mode (to allow you to watch rushes you've already recorded, either for review or playout purposes). You see it happen occasionally on live feeds, but usually when the camera operator believes they are no longer on-air.
SuperSajuuk223 posts since 24 Feb 2018
STV North Reporting Scotland
Do you mean the camera being used to cover Mariko went into a menu mode showing thumbnails of clips?

If so that's a result of the camcorder going into replay mode (to allow you to watch rushes you've already recorded, either for review or playout purposes). You see it happen occasionally on live feeds, but usually when the camera operator believes they are no longer on-air.

Nope, it popped up a Yes/No option (where the options were Ok and Cancel) with the question being like "Some data on this memory card needs to be recovered. Recover? If you don't do it now, you can do it later" or words to that effect. After that had been shown on screen for about 5-10 seconds, it went back to Kasia in the studio, before going back to Mariko a minute later.
Rkolsen2,545 posts since 20 Jan 2014
BBC World
Do you mean the camera being used to cover Mariko went into a menu mode showing thumbnails of clips?

If so that's a result of the camcorder going into replay mode (to allow you to watch rushes you've already recorded, either for review or playout purposes). You see it happen occasionally on live feeds, but usually when the camera operator believes they are no longer on-air.

Nope, it popped up a Yes/No option (where the options were Ok and Cancel) with the question being like "Some data on this memory card needs to be recovered. Recover? If you don't do it now, you can do it later" or words to that effect. After that had been shown on screen for about 5-10 seconds, it went back to Kasia in the studio, before going back to Mariko a minute later.


On a lot of cameras the technical menus will be shown on the external output. That sounds like what happened.
Don’t let anyone treat you like you’re a VO/SOT when you’re a PKG.
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