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DT
DTV
Can someone actually explain why they can't broadcast in the UK as I don't see why they cannot just use a Breakfiller during the Ad Breaks.
HJ
Harry James
DTV posted:
Can someone actually explain why they can't broadcast in the UK as I don't see why they cannot just use a Breakfiller during the Ad Breaks.


A breakfiller would be a really good idea for the BBC News Channel to use instead of showing BBC One etc adverts!
JO
Jon
A breakfiller would be a really good idea for the BBC News Channel to use instead of showing BBC One etc adverts!

Why?
IT
itsrobert Founding member
DTV posted:
Can someone actually explain why they can't broadcast in the UK as I don't see why they cannot just use a Breakfiller during the Ad Breaks.


It's not just about British viewers seeing the adverts; it's because the channel itself is funded by adverts. The British viewers cannot be targeted by BBC channels that carry advertising because we pay a licence fee for our BBC services. If the BBC started targeting commercial channels at the British public, then there would be no reason for the licence fee and the BBC would become a commercial organisation.
KN
knack
DTV posted:
Can someone actually explain why they can't broadcast in the UK as I don't see why they cannot just use a Breakfiller during the Ad Breaks.


It's not just about British viewers seeing the adverts; it's because the channel itself is funded by adverts. The British viewers cannot be targeted by BBC channels that carry advertising because we pay a licence fee for our BBC services. If the BBC started targeting commercial channels at the British public, then there would be no reason for the licence fee and the BBC would become a commercial organisation.


Do you know how the budget for the overnight simulcast is worked out? Is it split between domestic and world news?
SA
samwsmith1
Anyone have a website that shows live stream of BBC World News channel? Confused

I've sent you a PM with a link to the one I use Smile.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
knack posted:
DTV posted:
Can someone actually explain why they can't broadcast in the UK as I don't see why they cannot just use a Breakfiller during the Ad Breaks.


It's not just about British viewers seeing the adverts; it's because the channel itself is funded by adverts. The British viewers cannot be targeted by BBC channels that carry advertising because we pay a licence fee for our BBC services. If the BBC started targeting commercial channels at the British public, then there would be no reason for the licence fee and the BBC would become a commercial organisation.


Do you know how the budget for the overnight simulcast is worked out? Is it split between domestic and world news?


I don't know the exact details, nor how it currently operates, but I do recall that it always used to be produced by BBC News 24, not BBC World staff/resources. I think BBC World used to pay BBC News for the use of its resources, though I'm not sure how it works now. It's been a long time since I've discussed that aspect with anyone in the know.
KN
knack
knack posted:
DTV posted:
Can someone actually explain why they can't broadcast in the UK as I don't see why they cannot just use a Breakfiller during the Ad Breaks.


It's not just about British viewers seeing the adverts; it's because the channel itself is funded by adverts. The British viewers cannot be targeted by BBC channels that carry advertising because we pay a licence fee for our BBC services. If the BBC started targeting commercial channels at the British public, then there would be no reason for the licence fee and the BBC would become a commercial organisation.


Do you know how the budget for the overnight simulcast is worked out? Is it split between domestic and world news?


I don't know the exact details, nor how it currently operates, but I do recall that it always used to be produced by BBC News 24, not BBC World staff/resources. I think BBC World used to pay BBC News for the use of its resources, though I'm not sure how it works now. It's been a long time since I've discussed that aspect with anyone in the know.


Thanks
EX
excel99
I'm sure I read (in the DQF documents?) that WN were to take on the whole costs of overnights, and also World News Today
BP
Bob Paisley
knack posted:
DTV posted:
Can someone actually explain why they can't broadcast in the UK as I don't see why they cannot just use a Breakfiller during the Ad Breaks.


It's not just about British viewers seeing the adverts; it's because the channel itself is funded by adverts. The British viewers cannot be targeted by BBC channels that carry advertising because we pay a licence fee for our BBC services. If the BBC started targeting commercial channels at the British public, then there would be no reason for the licence fee and the BBC would become a commercial organisation.


Do you know how the budget for the overnight simulcast is worked out? Is it split between domestic and world news?


I don't know the exact details, nor how it currently operates, but I do recall that it always used to be produced by BBC News 24, not BBC World staff/resources. I think BBC World used to pay BBC News for the use of its resources, though I'm not sure how it works now. It's been a long time since I've discussed that aspect with anyone in the know.


As things stand - the overnight simulcast is still paid for by the licence fee - albeit World now has management over the overnight team. But, as has been stated elsewhere, under DQF, World will take over funding at some point in the future (not sure when).
MA
Marcus Founding member
knack posted:
DTV posted:
Can someone actually explain why they can't broadcast in the UK as I don't see why they cannot just use a Breakfiller during the Ad Breaks.


It's not just about British viewers seeing the adverts; it's because the channel itself is funded by adverts. The British viewers cannot be targeted by BBC channels that carry advertising because we pay a licence fee for our BBC services. If the BBC started targeting commercial channels at the British public, then there would be no reason for the licence fee and the BBC would become a commercial organisation.


Do you know how the budget for the overnight simulcast is worked out? Is it split between domestic and world news?


I don't know the exact details, nor how it currently operates, but I do recall that it always used to be produced by BBC News 24, not BBC World staff/resources. I think BBC World used to pay BBC News for the use of its resources, though I'm not sure how it works now. It's been a long time since I've discussed that aspect with anyone in the know.


As things stand - the overnight simulcast is still paid for by the licence fee - albeit World now has management over the overnight team. But, as has been stated elsewhere, under DQF, World will take over funding at some point in the future (not sure when).


AIUI World News now pays for the entire overnight service. They also fund the 0500 BBC One Programme and the 1900 BBC Four Programme, programmes which used to be funded by the Licence fee.

There are around 130 jobs in BBC news which would have had to close if World News had not taken over the funding for those jobs.
FL
flaziola
Another issue is that BBC World adverts are not just in the ad breaks, there's also sponsorships of some programs and features. Like as mentioned above, the weather.
Personally I think BBC World should get a couple more simulcast bulletins on the news channel. Take the 21:30 half hour for instance. Rather then shoo BBC World to a pre record. Why not do what they keep trying to do on BBC Two and give World a bulletin on that half hour.

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