Oh dear that does sound terrible, noticed on weekend bulletins, they at least show the sport sting which is good, but I really think they should bring back ending titles and the business and sport sting.
Now I have to admit something, to be honest I find this new set very boring and cold, couple this with the new presentation, BBC World News presentation wise is poor these days.
But yet again BBC World have to make money somehow, I really think they need to bring commercials to BBC Prime!!
It's bizarre - I hadn't read this forum for ages when those extra breaks and other changes started being implemented... but it was such a mess to watch and so often seemed to leave itself "hanging" that I came here just to find out what was going on because something was clearly wrong.
Weeks later it's *still* a mess (and thanks to Marcus's insight, it's quite understandable why people are struggling) so I am starting to imagine that this is the way things will now stay. A definite drop in the depth of analysis (outside of the top story) + a very choppy presentation style.
But if all of this is apparently about increasing revenue.. then I'd be interested to know which regions are using all of this new available ad-space. Here in Brasil we get about 2 minutes of breaks per hour - so all that has changed is an increase in fillers and reduction in content!
Maybe there's no specific sales person for South America, but whatever the case I'd prefer that were selling the airtime available before increasing it further!
The chop from ads to filler is never pleasant (jump of music & picture) - but worryingly it seems less noticeable now everything chops & changes in that way! What a shame!!!
It's bizarre - I hadn't read this forum for ages when those extra breaks and other changes started being implemented... but it was such a mess to watch and so often seemed to leave itself "hanging" that I came here just to find out what was going on because something was clearly wrong.
Weeks later it's *still* a mess (and thanks to Marcus's insight, it's quite understandable why people are struggling) so I am starting to imagine that this is the way things will now stay. A definite drop in the depth of analysis (outside of the top story) + a very choppy presentation style.
But if all of this is apparently about increasing revenue.. then I'd be interested to know which regions are using all of this new available ad-space. Here in Brasil we get about 2 minutes of breaks per hour - so all that has changed is an increase in fillers and reduction in content!
Maybe there's no specific sales person for South America, but whatever the case I'd prefer that were selling the airtime available before increasing it further!
The chop from ads to filler is never pleasant (jump of music & picture) - but worryingly it seems less noticeable now everything chops & changes in that way! What a shame!!!
I really do not like the way the sting just pops up, I don't think it even starts at the beginning, as the music has already begun to play.
Well I was in India for four weeks, and had the brief opportunity to watch BBC World India in a hotel overnight, all the ad slots were filled over there, admitably they were the same ones over and over again, but at least they were filled.
Which is the problem BBC World has. When all the adbreaks in India have sold out, those in the Americas have not. If an ad breaks has not sold any advertising then you should see a continuous stream of output from the Newsroom. That is why the presenters do not refer to the break as some viewers won't get a break.
I think BBC World now has about 8 minutes of advertising an hour. So if Drew is seeing only two the other 6 minutes will be masked
Which is the problem BBC World has. When all the adbreaks in India have sold out, those in the Americas have not. If an ad breaks has not sold any advertising then you should see a continuous stream of output from the Newsroom. That is why the presenters do not refer to the break as some viewers won't get a break.
I think BBC World now has about 8 minutes of advertising an hour. So if Drew is seeing only two the other 6 minutes will be masked
I guess in concept, this sounds good, but in reality the result is often a misjointed bulletin with the presenter having to wait an odd second, but I hope for BBC World's sake this works out well, as it will be great to see BBC World make money, which at the end of the day is the end game.
Ahhh Marcus... this could well explain the source of my annoyance!
Whenever there is a network sting the feed I see here opts out.. are you saying that for regions without fully-sold airtime I should see a network sting and then the presenter continuing? That never happens and hence I had wondered what the "continuous newsroom" concept was supposed to be about!
Just fyi I have Sky Brasil and NET Cable - whilst the ads vary between them, network stings always go to & from breaks/dynamic junctions and not more news!
Ahhh Marcus... this could well explain the source of my annoyance!
Whenever there is a network sting the feed I see here opts out.. are you saying that for regions without fully-sold airtime I should see a network sting and then the presenter continuing? That never happens and hence I had wondered what the "continuous newsroom" concept was supposed to be about!
Just fyi I have Sky Brasil and NET Cable - whilst the ads vary between them, network stings always go to & from breaks/dynamic junctions and not more news!
You shouldn't even see the sting. You should just get a seemless stream of news. You will see the opt back sting as everyone gets that. It sounds as if your operator is being fed the wrong feed.
Off course if just one 10" ad has sold you will get that and then the breakfiller for the remainder of the break
Why can't BBC World have ad breaks at a set time for all zones?
*.15 - Ad break
*.30 - Ad break
*.45 - Ad break
*.57 - Ad break
???
Because then all regions would get a breakfiller if they hadn't sold advertising in that break.
The new system means that the BBC World studio provides a constant feed of news presentation for the half-hour, with only some territories opt-ing out for adverts (or adverts + break filler if they haven't filled a break), whilst regions that haven't sold that break get continuing news. The stings into the ad-break are played out by presentation rather than the news studio I believe - the presenter just pauses to allow pres to opt out a region, and then read on. Similarly they pause to allow for the opt-back?
What can we do in order to get back a good BBC World?
you can write a letter to santa
...or read the last twenty pages or so wherever everyone chimes in with the same thing three or four hundred times:
- bring back closing titles
- less breaks per hour
- proper stings into and out of breaks
- business and sport stings blah blah blah
God, I'm so bored of reading the same shít over and over again in this thread I could cry. But please, come one, come all, and repeat it all some more because the more we repeat it, the more likely it is to happen. Isn't that right children?
