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Welcome to Juliette Foster - Former Sky Anchor joins World (September 2004)

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JO
johnnybegood
itsrobert posted:
Admittedly, BBC World is nowhere near as professional as it was in the period of 2000-2004. However, I think that article is a little too critical. The streaming idea really ruined the bulletins in October 2004, but I must admit that I've got used to it now. The only thing I would like back is the proper bulletin close rather than a website plug and quick handover to the weather. But I certainly don't think it's as bad as that article makes it out to be. Journalistically, the channel remains excellent.


Agree wholeheartedly.

Does anyone know the online stream of it? I used to watch it but have since lost the URL after deleting my favourites.
PH
Phen
If I'm not mistaken, when the full News 24 countdown was put on the BBC Broadcast website, someone managed to 'capture' it and posted it here. Would it be possible in any way for the same person or someone else to do that for the BBC World one that's just been put on the Red Bee website?

I think a lot of people here would love to have it, especially me! Very Happy
AR
Arkamus
on the box posted:
And he is 100% correct in his anaylsis too!


I agree 100%. The channel's branding and graphics are a great dissapointment when compared now to CNN. You have to ask yourself why the panel is asking viewers to submit feedback about CNN's new look.
OB
on the box
Phen posted:
If I'm not mistaken, when the full News 24 countdown was put on the BBC Broadcast website, someone managed to 'capture' it and posted it here. Would it be possible in any way for the same person or someone else to do that for the BBC World one that's just been put on the Red Bee website?

I think a lot of people here would love to have it, especially me! Very Happy


I have captured it, I could PM to you if you like its in WMV Format
OB
on the box
Arkamus posted:
on the box posted:
And he is 100% correct in his anaylsis too!


I agree 100%. The channel's branding and graphics are a great dissapointment when compared now to CNN. You have to ask yourself why the panel is asking viewers to submit feedback about CNN's new look.


Indeed, I often wonder if News Channels these days overwhelm our screens with too much graphics, I must say when I went to Holland recently I decided to stay with CNNI rather than BBC World, I just thought that CNN has a more upmarket feel and look, their new graphics i think set the standard, simplicity is beauty!!
Still in comparsion to other US Networks the BBC and Sky look nicer but it seems CNN might be starting to raise the Goalposts.
AN
all new Phil
on the box posted:
CNN might be starting to raise the Goalposts.

Raising the bar, shurely?
OB
on the box
all new Phil posted:
on the box posted:
CNN might be starting to raise the Goalposts.

Raising the bar, shurely?


Yes thats what I should have said Embarassed
BA
Bail Moderator
BBC LDN posted:
Bail posted:
Does he know that at times BBC World is run by only a handful of people?


That's completely irrelevant. The fact that it's understaffed shouldn't be used as an excuse to justify why the channel is as bad as it is. Even though there are obvious budgetary concerns, if the channel can't be run to an acceptable standard with a handful of people, then it's probably time to address that problem.

True, I don't know how much material is made for BBC World itself, or if any/all is taken from BBC News (24) output. But BBC World isn't funded by the license fee which he seems to hint at, but revenue form advertising, which alas has to be part of programming. I'm not on a praise BBC World rave, and I agree they plug the whole "Just in case you forgot this is BBC World" thing and "Putting News First" far too much, but it's content isn't that dissimilar form News 24, and it does have some other very good news, and non news programming.

That said I do agree with most of the comments here, and he seems to argue two points a) They don’t want to offend anyone b) They have to be impartial. I would of thought if you have the latter you have to “play it safe” so to speak and not take sides, just tell it as it is.

And I think the staffing issue is an issue as I'm sure it's much deeper than playout that gets short staffed.

My two cents.

Sidenote: What on earth is the point of the "countdown" now if it doesn't count anymore, they might as well just use an ident on its own straight into news/programming.
BB
BBC LDN
Bail posted:
Sidenote: What on earth is the point of the "countdown" now if it doesn't count anymore, they might as well just use an ident on its own straight into news/programming.


I fear you may have misunderstood - only the version of the countdown that has been put on the Red Bee website to showcase their involvement in its creation is without countdown numerals. As far as I'm aware - though I've not personally seen BBC World in a couple of weeks myself - the numbers on the countdown on screen are still present, although there is much consternation at the repetition of the same version of the countdown each hour.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Hmmm, vanilla journalistic content? Have to disagree strongly with the Times article in certain aspects - BBC World continues to maintain a high quality standard of journalism, and during the entire life of this thread, it's a point that I have laboured hard. There is no question regarding the quality, impartiality and professionalism of the output from the journalists and presenters who appear on BBC World. (They are - after all - the same people who appear on the rest of the BBC News output).

Where I feel the article DOES hit the nail on the head is in the rest of the "feel" that one gets from watching the channel, and the rather disjointed graphics, opt outs and endless overlaying of stings and graphics, of cut off sentences and blank screens..........this can, and does, very easily distract the viewers attention from the matter in hand.

The correspondent above, who compares the clutter of BBC World with the plain and simplicity of CNN, makes a very valid point. Less IS more sometimes, and CNN now has brought something entirely new to the table that others would do well to emulate.

I find myself watching BBC World far less these days than I used to, despite the fact that the channel is immediately and easily accessible to me.

If they could just sort out the drivel and return to a solid and seamless style (flags era was by far the best on World), I would tune in again.
MA
Matrix
BBC WORLD posted:
Hmmm, vanilla journalistic content? Have to disagree strongly with the Times article in certain aspects - BBC World continues to maintain a high quality standard of journalism, and during the entire life of this thread, it's a point that I have laboured hard. There is no question regarding the quality, impartiality and professionalism of the output from the journalists and presenters who appear on BBC World. (They are - after all - the same people who appear on the rest of the BBC News output).

Where I feel the article DOES hit the nail on the head is in the rest of the "feel" that one gets from watching the channel, and the rather disjointed graphics, opt outs and endless overlaying of stings and graphics, of cut off sentences and blank screens..........this can, and does, very easily distract the viewers attention from the matter in hand.

The correspondent above, who compares the clutter of BBC World with the plain and simplicity of CNN, makes a very valid point. Less IS more sometimes, and CNN now has brought something entirely new to the table that others would do well to emulate.

I find myself watching BBC World far less these days than I used to, despite the fact that the channel is immediately and easily accessible to me.

If they could just sort out the drivel and return to a solid and seamless style (flags era was by far the best on World), I would tune in again.


Sadly James I find myself agree with several of your comments, not that agreeing with you's a bad thing but just comparing how good World used to be.

Oh, I'm preparing that email now, lost the computer for a while but I'm back now... Evil cackle...
EY
the eye
Anyone else notice in the Asia-Pacific region that Asia Business Report has stopped using Gill Sans and has started using an extended version of Swiss?

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