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Matrix
johnnybegood posted:
Matrix posted:
johnnybegood posted:
harshy posted:
cortomaltese posted:
johnnybegood posted:
The only real problem I have with BBC World is that bloody breakfiller. It's ALWAYS on! Now CNN do not have this problem.

Surely in its place BBC World could show promos like they used to? Can't say I've seen a promo for programmes on BBC World for AGES! They're cheap to make and can be ran all the time! After all, they are in the bloody breakfiller as it is!


Well, the breakfiller is not that bad, particularly because when they make a promo for some special programme or event they always look so bad that they make me wanna switch off the tv and they always put that awful red ident at the end... At least with the breakfiller you have nice music and always something that could be interesting on the screen (time zones, weather, markets...)


Well technically the current breakfiller is the best, my personal fav is the 2000 breakfiller, although it used to look awful when it went wrong!


My point being - is there any real NEED for a breakfiller? The text things
are different, admittely, but easily could be done in a 15 second full screen graphic, like a promo...leaving time for regions to opt in and out whenever they like, as they do now on a 15 second basis?


Breakfiller work two fold. One they further promote the channel and up and coming programmes and secondly allow for regions not taking adverts not to simply fall off the air for 2 minutes. It's worth remembering that wherever possible BBC World will sell slots but when this cannot happen a breakfiller, hence the name, will be used.

Personally, I quite like the various versions although I have to side with Hardshy, generally the whole 00-02 package was fantastic!


Yeah, can agree with that - just find the whole breakfiller a little 'stale' if you know what I mean and would find promos more interesting - even they would give regions the opportunity to opt in and out when they have ads.

But hey, it'll never happen...


Obvisously it's a little stale, as one person so excellently put it, like's like Ceefax for the world...Makes me chuckle. It is a bit drap, but it's worth noting that this is improved, initally it was a text based service, much like the 24 countdown of a by-gone era. And the introduction of video was designed to make it more engaging, but I also suppose it's worth noting the difference in costs between producing several promos and simply editing clips for a breakfiller. I actaully quite like the fact that it can break from serious, silent talking (in the news) to a beat-y, text screen, kinda breaks up the format well and particually when run for a good few minutes and given the opportunity to plug headlines/shows.
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PMDAVIDWILLIAMS posted:
ive been in jamaica for a couple of weeks, and in the hotel rooms, i got to see bbc world, and i must admit that the BBC World from BBC News, BBC News from BBC World thing is very confusing. You dont have CNN with this problem. Also, on the News 24 Tonight issue, im sure that there are UK residents who when abroad would like to have some UK news. On that subject, i stayed in a couple of hotels, and in one hotel, there would be breaks in thr programme, and in another hotel, after the coming up bit, would continue, most of the time with a human interest story, or a UK-centric story. Why the differences, anyone?


The BBC World/BBC News thing was a mistake which has yet to be rectified. There were no high level decisions about it, it was a mistake by the TOG programmers, one of many. The programmers are no longer working at the BBC so the mistake is unlikely to be fixed. It's not something the average viewer would notice anyhow, most of the World newsroom would not realise there was a difference.

The reason you sometimes see breakfiller and sometimes see contiouous news is solely down to how much advertising that BBC World has sold for that particular segment in that particular region. If there is no advertising then you will get News, if there is advertising sold than you will see the adverts followed by breakfiller until the end of the break.

The breaks have to be a precise length so that the Newsroom knows exactly how much to fill.

The break is usually 2'05 long. So say the newsroom is wanting to play a package of 1.38, the cue the news reader needs to read must be exactly 27 seconds minus the duration of the music stab. The director needs to calculate this and give the presenter a count so they hit the package on time. If the get it a second wrong then those opted out for ad breaks will see a flash frame of something before the optback sting.

Given that there are two of these breaks each programme a,d that the director is busy all the other jobs they need to do, it's amazing it works so smoothly most of the time.
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harshy Founding member
archiveTV posted:
The BBC World/BBC News thing was a mistake which has yet to be rectified. There were no high level decisions about it, it was a mistake by the TOG programmers, one of many. The programmers are no longer working at the BBC so the mistake is unlikely to be fixed.


I'm not surprised they are not working there anymore, seriously though I really hope another programmer comes in and fixes it! Wink

If I did the same mistake at work, I would be fired for sure!
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Arkamus
Im new to the forum so forgive me if I dont have all the correct info at hand. BBC World is a channel thats following a business plan that works, even if it is stressful for the staff. If the channel has generated more revenue, I think thats more important for its survival than the errors we see on screen. But perhaps the channel should consider hiring an assistant for the directors who can handle timings,opts...etc

Ive been watching BBC World via BBC America for the past two years. I recently began subscription to the channel via real player. its interesting to find a board where people talk about its presentation. Smile
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archiveTV

Another factual, eloquent and non-controversial post from you! Thanks for the information - it was of interest to even me!

James
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le_one
Arakamus, you may like to know that BBC World is now available as a 24x7 channel in the US. As of now, no provider has picked it up yet Sad I'm sure they are in discussions with Discovery (the distributor of BBC World in the US), but you should definetly call your provider and request the channel. They really are clueless as to how many people want this channel in the US, if not, we would have received it ten years ago along with the rest of the world!
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harshy Founding member
le_one posted:
Arakamus, you may like to know that BBC World is now available as a 24x7 channel in the US. As of now, no provider has picked it up yet


You say it's available 24/7, then you say no provider has the channel, so how's it available 24/7?
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Arkamus
harshy posted:
le_one posted:
Arakamus, you may like to know that BBC World is now available as a 24x7 channel in the US. As of now, no provider has picked it up yet


You say it's available 24/7, then you say no provider has the channel, so how's it available 24/7?


I know. I have it 24/7 on Real Player through my subscription.
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Martin Founding member
Arkamus posted:


I know. I have it 24/7 on Real Player through my subscription.


What is the quality like on it?
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JamesWorldNews
An awful lot of Kirsty Lang on BBC World these days, standing in for Nik Gowing, who must be preparing for his annual stint in Davos. I still cannot get to grips with Kirsty Lang at all - she always seems to be in a daze.

Haven't seen it for months now, but is ZB still on The World?

James
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johnnybegood
I've always said it but Lyse Doucet is the finest asset BBC WORLD has! She is brilliant!

Anchoring live from Ramallah for BBC News Extra, she is superb. God knows why Kirsty introduced her from the studio - seemed pointless when Lyse can do it perfectly herself.

Lyse rules!

<Wonder why the Ramallah backdrop features OLD BBC News backing - the red and cream globe etc...?>
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cortomaltese
BBC WORLD posted:
An awful lot of Kirsty Lang on BBC World these days, standing in for Nik Gowing, who must be preparing for his annual stint in Davos. I still cannot get to grips with Kirsty Lang at all - she always seems to be in a daze.

Haven't seen it for months now, but is ZB still on The World?

James


Yes, "ZB" is still presenting The World 3/4 times a week.
I don't think Kirsty Lang is that bad... I agree with you when you say she seems to be in a daze, but there's something in her way of presenting that I like somehow...

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