On the new countdown side of things, i think this opener here One News opener 02-04 would be more suitible to go with the countdown, maybe a recolour or something and a similar remix of the music, then I think it might work well.
It's a bit like flying actually - you may fly on a terrible airline that has a terrible product - but as long as the cabin crew are doing a good personable job and they sparkle, the passenger doesn't see all the other c r a p that exists.
BBC World is now a bit like that - the presentation and the whole package is a bit of a mess, and the numerous errors that we get to see are just not BBC!! But, so long as the standard of journalism remains high and the excellent presenters are there behind the desk, lots of the cracks are, by default, papered over and the product hence becomes bearable.
I pretty much agree but the terrific implication is that if the great presenters whose fabulous job makes us ignore the appalling overall technical quality, somehow happen to be replaced by less skilled and experienced anchors, we'll simply be astounded when we realize how bad it's really come to be. Let's hope that at that very moment we won't shoot ourselves...
Having visited the TVroom website, the graphics of which certainly took me back, I think the regression in terms of the countdown and the idents is vividly obvious. Everything used to be part of a nice, bold, coherent presentation whole. Since the 2003 changes they've been redesigning things quite randomly, and so what we have now is a patchwork, a kaleidoscope of different styles which when pieced together don't convey any substantial message, spirit or values. To be frank it doesn't mean anything at all.
Anyway it felt good remembering the Golden Age of BBCWorld. Unfortunately I couldn't play the videos. Can anyone tell me which player I ought to download?
In other news I've watched
Digital Dividend
and frankly I just can't believe it's she. Her face might look quite similar to the Anita McNaught whose bulletins I used to enjoy, but her hair style is sooo radically different! I mean, it's gonna take me time to get used to the new Anita, and to forget the previous one, assuming she's here to stay.
I pretty much agree but the terrific implication is that if the great presenters whose fabulous job makes us ignore the appalling overall technical quality, somehow happen to be replaced by less skilled and experienced anchors, we'll simply be astounded when we realize how bad it's really come to be. Let's hope that at that very moment we won't shoot ourselves...
Having visited the TVroom website, the graphics of which certainly took me back, I think the regression in terms of the countdown and the idents is vividly obvious. Everything used to be part of a nice, bold, coherent presentation whole. Since the 2003 changes they've been redesigning things quite randomly, and so what we have now is a patchwork, a kaleidoscope of different styles which when pieced together don't convey any substantial message, spirit or values. To be frank it doesn't mean anything at all.
Anyway it felt good remembering the Golden Age of BBCWorld. Unfortunately I couldn't play the videos. Can anyone tell me which player I ought to download?
In other news I've watched
Digital Dividend
and frankly I just can't believe it's she. Her face might look quite similar to the Anita McNaught whose bulletins I used to enjoy, but her hair style is sooo radically different! I mean, it's gonna take me time to get used to the new Anita, and to forget the previous one, assuming she's here to stay.
Hello Haibara, try Real Player, although some of the videos on The TV Room weren't working for me either.
I pretty much agree but the terrific implication is that if the great presenters whose fabulous job makes us ignore the appalling overall technical quality, somehow happen to be replaced by less skilled and experienced anchors, we'll simply be astounded when we realize how bad it's really come to be. Let's hope that at that very moment we won't shoot ourselves...
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Come on it's not that bad. Ok there are a few technical glitches now and than, but BBC World does do some incredibly complicated sequences. Take the earthquake sequances presented by Lyse in Parkistan, and India week with Mishal in Delhi. Very tricky to have a presenter several thousand miles away, but most of the week was seamless.
And don't forget World works on a fraction of the budget of News24, Sky or CNN
I haven't watched a great deal of BBC World recently, but I have just sat and watched the 1400 GMT bulletin with Nisha Pillai, and I must admit that it was very good. Obviously, there is no question about the journalistic content, but presentationally it is a lot better than it was. If you compare to October 2004 (when the changes were rolled out), there has been a vast improvement. Nobody was cut off, and it felt like a seamless bulletin. It would be nice to have business/sport stings and closing music back, but it's not the end of the world. It's just a pity we can remember what it was like a few years ago. I believe if I had just discovered BBC World, I would think it is a good channel.
My only real gripe is the ticker. I just feel that it is too distracting. If that wasn't there all the time, there would be absolutely nothing wrong.
I managed to catch the 2300 GMT bulletin last night, and it was great to see Justin Webb back. I was quite surprised when I saw him, as I was expecting Katty Kay - plus, I thought Justin only worked for BBC Radio from Washington DC. He was very good - it was like being back in the Virtual Era.
Obviously, there is no question about the journalistic content, but presentationally it is a lot better than it was. If you compare to October 2004 (when the changes were rolled out), there has been a vast improvement. Nobody was cut off, and it felt like a seamless bulletin. It would be nice to have business/sport stings and closing music back, but it's not the end of the world.
Of course thinking back to the weeks that followed the October 2004 dramatic design and presentation changes, they've certainly come a long way, but one has to remember just how bad it was in those days, I mean it wasn't just a series of isolated cock ups, it was a real massacre that wasn't watchable any more. They might have improved from horrific to very bad and then from very bad to fairly watchable, but there remains frequent technical problems which, despite the difficulty of synchronising so many reporters joining from such distant locations, just should have long been addressed and tackled. In terms of their quite reduced budget compared to other news networks, why don't they increase advertising revenues? I wouldn't mind getting more commercials as long as they're shown during the already existing breaks currently filled with the programme trailer.
I would also enjoy seeing special stings back for sport, business as well as a proper closing ident.
itsrobert posted:
I It's just a pity we can remember what it was like a few years ago. I believe if I had just discovered BBC World, I would think it is a good channel.
Well you have to admit that if, when looking back you feel like "I wish they hadn't made changes to it 'cause it was far better at that time", there is a problem. It is undeniable that the golden age is behind us, so what we've got to say is "Come on that's not good enough, I know you can do better, it used to be far greater", and not "Well it might be true that it used to be better but it's still good so yeah, those wonderful stings and fantastic presentation belong to the past, let's move forward", which is, no offense meant, what you seem to be suggesting I think if I had just discovered BBC World, I would hail it as a strange channel, a channel which features an unparalleled journalistic content, along with frequent cock ups and synchronisation failures. I for instance would wonder why on earth at the end of the :13 break, just before the back-from-break sting, you get the end of a report, the integrality of which it seems you never get to see, be it during the rest of the half-hour long bulletin or NewsExtra. That's quite frustrating. Yesterday during the 1900 CET edition, just after the programme trailer vanished at around :14, one could see the end of a piece on Burmese human rights activist Aung Sang Suu Kyi. Has anyone seen the whole of it?
