NE
I think the biggest thing that will take getting used to is the flat map projection. While it may be more equitable it makes the country look very long and thin which means the impact of any labels covering up areas of land is increased.
I think the temperature values are too small and the little slice of colour beneath aren't visible enough - why not have the entire background to the temp box a data-representative colour?
It will be interesting to see how things develop, clearly the graphics are aligned between broadcast and web / app but some of the mechanisms which work great on a website may not suit broadcast.
I'm sure I'll get used to it, but it doesn't look very BBC (of course I remember thinking that about the last refresh!).
I think the temperature values are too small and the little slice of colour beneath aren't visible enough - why not have the entire background to the temp box a data-representative colour?
It will be interesting to see how things develop, clearly the graphics are aligned between broadcast and web / app but some of the mechanisms which work great on a website may not suit broadcast.
I'm sure I'll get used to it, but it doesn't look very BBC (of course I remember thinking that about the last refresh!).
TE
tesandco
Founding member
I won't bother posting up the new national news stuff as I imagine everyone has seen it by now. But here was the first use of the new weather graphics locally in the North West for the lunchtime forecast:-
Addendum Edit (7/2): I don't upload everything to the forum just to avoid spamming the place up - however for future reference if I've mentioned it, it can usually be found via the site in my signature/profile.
Addendum Edit (7/2): I don't upload everything to the forum just to avoid spamming the place up - however for future reference if I've mentioned it, it can usually be found via the site in my signature/profile.
Last edited by tesandco on 7 February 2018 4:21pm
SC
scottishtv
Founding member
It was probably this sort of presumptuous attitude in their tender response that lost the Met Office the contract:
BBC and Met Office: an enduring partnership :
"...it is not surprising that the public are puzzled and have asked us why the BBC have changed their supplier of weather information. This was a decision for the BBC to make and a question we can’t answer."
BBC and Met Office: an enduring partnership :
"...it is not surprising that the public are puzzled and have asked us why the BBC have changed their supplier of weather information. This was a decision for the BBC to make and a question we can’t answer."
NE
In my experience of tender processes, usually at the end of the process you are told precisely why your bid was not successful - that is part of the transparency of tenders. So it is odd that the MetOffice can't answer why they were dropped.
MA
It's the way Meteogroup has always worked..................,
I see. Well, that says all I need to know about them then.
Well, my iphone 6s prompted me to update last night, utterly ridiculous the hour by hour 'granularity' for the weather more than three days ahead. Complete lack of common sense being applied
It's the way Meteogroup has always worked..................,
I see. Well, that says all I need to know about them then.
NG
It's the way Meteogroup has always worked..................,
I see. Well, that says all I need to know about them then.
I'm not sure it does. I'd give them a chance.
Personally I gave up on the Met Office for forecasting - both on BBC outlets and their own websites - in favour of the Norwegian Met office/NRK operation YR.no as it gave better forecasts for my area in the UK than the Met Office, and a more detailed hour-by-hour precipitation and cloud cover forecast over the short term. That - coupled with Dark Sky on my iPhone - works far better IME.
noggin
Founding member
Well, my iphone 6s prompted me to update last night, utterly ridiculous the hour by hour 'granularity' for the weather more than three days ahead. Complete lack of common sense being applied
It's the way Meteogroup has always worked..................,
I see. Well, that says all I need to know about them then.
I'm not sure it does. I'd give them a chance.
Personally I gave up on the Met Office for forecasting - both on BBC outlets and their own websites - in favour of the Norwegian Met office/NRK operation YR.no as it gave better forecasts for my area in the UK than the Met Office, and a more detailed hour-by-hour precipitation and cloud cover forecast over the short term. That - coupled with Dark Sky on my iPhone - works far better IME.
RD
Did Simon King do the last News Channel Met Office forecast from Salford then? Given that he's in the NWT studio doing their forecast just hour or two later.
Overall I'm not sure. The place names in the boxes I hate as they cover up parts of the country. Mid Wales won't be getting a national forecast thanks to Birmingham!
The graphics seem a bit jittery, even moreso that the outgoing graphics. And no longer do we go for a tour across the country, the map just merely zooms in a bit to make it bigger and pans around a bit but it doesn't zoom in as much as the old graphics therefore I'm guessing the MeteoGroup data isn't overly accurate at a truly local level . The white blocks and the transitions are quite cheap looking too.
I feel a few changes need and probably will happen. The MeteoGroup data is also very disappointing when looking at the long range online forecasts which just show every single day as cloudy.
Overall I'm not sure. The place names in the boxes I hate as they cover up parts of the country. Mid Wales won't be getting a national forecast thanks to Birmingham!
The graphics seem a bit jittery, even moreso that the outgoing graphics. And no longer do we go for a tour across the country, the map just merely zooms in a bit to make it bigger and pans around a bit but it doesn't zoom in as much as the old graphics therefore I'm guessing the MeteoGroup data isn't overly accurate at a truly local level . The white blocks and the transitions are quite cheap looking too.
I feel a few changes need and probably will happen. The MeteoGroup data is also very disappointing when looking at the long range online forecasts which just show every single day as cloudy.
Last edited by RDJ on 6 February 2018 4:24pm
IS
The UK map is the one bit of the graphics I'd seen before today and I wasn't that keen as it's far too small. But the rest look great I reckon. They feel far more fresh and detailed and have a much better contrast on screen.
Back to the map, as I said the the other day, this country isn't suitable for 16:9 TV, if they can't have it tilted then but they should put the Shetlands in a box and zoom in the rest
Back to the map, as I said the the other day, this country isn't suitable for 16:9 TV, if they can't have it tilted then but they should put the Shetlands in a box and zoom in the rest