DV
Re the Ten block issue, have done some thinking outside the box and have thought of this almost nil cost 'solution' which would need split second timing but would solve a few issues with Newsnight.
Run the first 10-15 minutes of the News Channel's output from the end of the Network Ten on BBC TWO as a recap that would set the agenda for Newsnight. Newsnight would then start when the regional opts on ONE end.
A shuffle of the order of events in the 1030 - 1100 block on the News Channel would help, News, Business and Weather then Paper headlines before the split and Sport and more from the papers after it.
Newsnight could then avoid the need for it's 11pm headlines, drop the end of programme weather AND if run from 1040-1130 allow more time for Newsnight Scotland which could extend to a full 30 minute programme M-Th.
... ok knock this one down guys!
Run the first 10-15 minutes of the News Channel's output from the end of the Network Ten on BBC TWO as a recap that would set the agenda for Newsnight. Newsnight would then start when the regional opts on ONE end.
A shuffle of the order of events in the 1030 - 1100 block on the News Channel would help, News, Business and Weather then Paper headlines before the split and Sport and more from the papers after it.
Newsnight could then avoid the need for it's 11pm headlines, drop the end of programme weather AND if run from 1040-1130 allow more time for Newsnight Scotland which could extend to a full 30 minute programme M-Th.
... ok knock this one down guys!
BR
Who would that benefit though - people would just turn over for Newsnight and be as annoyed having to sit through a national news recap as they would sitting through the regional news.
Indeed we're all making the assumption people who watch Newsnight also watch the Ten o'clock News, but I wonder how true that is. I don't think Newsnight's audience is much more than a million, and they're just as likely to come from other channels as they are from BBC1.
Re the Ten block issue, have done some thinking outside the box and have thought of this almost nil cost 'solution' which would need split second timing but would solve a few issues with Newsnight.
Run the first 10-15 minutes of the News Channel's output from the end of the Network Ten on BBC TWO as a recap that would set the agenda for Newsnight. Newsnight would then start when the regional opts on ONE end.
A shuffle of the order of events in the 1030 - 1100 block on the News Channel would help, News, Business and Weather then Paper headlines before the split and Sport and more from the papers after it.
Newsnight could then avoid the need for it's 11pm headlines, drop the end of programme weather AND if run from 1040-1130 allow more time for Newsnight Scotland which could extend to a full 30 minute programme M-Th.
... ok knock this one down guys!
Run the first 10-15 minutes of the News Channel's output from the end of the Network Ten on BBC TWO as a recap that would set the agenda for Newsnight. Newsnight would then start when the regional opts on ONE end.
A shuffle of the order of events in the 1030 - 1100 block on the News Channel would help, News, Business and Weather then Paper headlines before the split and Sport and more from the papers after it.
Newsnight could then avoid the need for it's 11pm headlines, drop the end of programme weather AND if run from 1040-1130 allow more time for Newsnight Scotland which could extend to a full 30 minute programme M-Th.
... ok knock this one down guys!
Who would that benefit though - people would just turn over for Newsnight and be as annoyed having to sit through a national news recap as they would sitting through the regional news.
Indeed we're all making the assumption people who watch Newsnight also watch the Ten o'clock News, but I wonder how true that is. I don't think Newsnight's audience is much more than a million, and they're just as likely to come from other channels as they are from BBC1.
JO
But that's probably more to do with the fact there is live football coverage on Saturday afternoons most the year and they feel the news would just get in the way.
Shame they can't do anything with later bulletins on local radio at weekends?
BBC WM - Bulletin at 1pm today, nothing after that.
BBC WM - Bulletin at 1pm today, nothing after that.
But that's probably more to do with the fact there is live football coverage on Saturday afternoons most the year and they feel the news would just get in the way.
WE
But that's probably more to do with the fact there is live football coverage on Saturday afternoons most the year and they feel the news would just get in the way.
What about after 6pm(8pm if there's an evening footy match!)?
The only time you've ever got late evening weekend bulletins on local BBC radio here, is if the **** really hits the fan, eg Princess Diana dying, or local emergencies(Brum evacuation following 7/7 bombings!).
Shame they can't do anything with later bulletins on local radio at weekends?
BBC WM - Bulletin at 1pm today, nothing after that.
BBC WM - Bulletin at 1pm today, nothing after that.
But that's probably more to do with the fact there is live football coverage on Saturday afternoons most the year and they feel the news would just get in the way.
What about after 6pm(8pm if there's an evening footy match!)?
The only time you've ever got late evening weekend bulletins on local BBC radio here, is if the **** really hits the fan, eg Princess Diana dying, or local emergencies(Brum evacuation following 7/7 bombings!).
RW
It doesn't look as if the Cheshire website is going ahead, if the map on the revamped BBC Manchester website is anything to go by.
I would rather money was spent on expanding BBC Local Radio stations in underserved areas (specifically Cheshire, Dorset, Surrey and Somerset) than on television news. It doesn't matter how much more airtime is given over to regional news on television, it's not going to make it any more relevant to where I live - all it means to us here is even more irrelevant stuff about the Olympics, the Mayor, the Olympics, tube strikes, the Olympics, congestion charge, the Olympics...
I wonder what happened to the £68 million that was going to be spent on the cancelled BBC Local Video project?
Robert Williams
Founding member
Fingers crossed that 'BBC Cheshire' is still going to happen, one of the largest counties in England that doesn't have a BBC Local Radio, a BBC Website that doesn't exist or redirects to Merseyside, Manchester or Stoke!
It doesn't look as if the Cheshire website is going ahead, if the map on the revamped BBC Manchester website is anything to go by.
I would rather money was spent on expanding BBC Local Radio stations in underserved areas (specifically Cheshire, Dorset, Surrey and Somerset) than on television news. It doesn't matter how much more airtime is given over to regional news on television, it's not going to make it any more relevant to where I live - all it means to us here is even more irrelevant stuff about the Olympics, the Mayor, the Olympics, tube strikes, the Olympics, congestion charge, the Olympics...
I wonder what happened to the £68 million that was going to be spent on the cancelled BBC Local Video project?
BR
Well little spelt out in the BBC Trust report, but "improved local news provision at breakfast and late evening" could just as well refer to radio as TV.
Would be interesting to know the demographics for BBC Local Radio. I imagine it's relatively old, and that's something the BBC would need to address - and a local opt out on a national station may reach a much wider audience than just offering more on the local stations.
Would be interesting to know the demographics for BBC Local Radio. I imagine it's relatively old, and that's something the BBC would need to address - and a local opt out on a national station may reach a much wider audience than just offering more on the local stations.
MA
.....Like reintroducing the regional opt outs on Radio 4 ? They were abolsihed about 30 years ago in favour of local radio.
and a local opt out on a national station may reach a much wider audience than just offering more on the local stations.
.....Like reintroducing the regional opt outs on Radio 4 ? They were abolsihed about 30 years ago in favour of local radio.
BR
.....Like reintroducing the regional opt outs on Radio 4 ? They were abolsihed about 30 years ago in favour of local radio.
Well I'm not sure they'd get a younger demographic with Radio 4! Apparently local radio is squarely targetted at 55 year olds called Dave and Sue.
and a local opt out on a national station may reach a much wider audience than just offering more on the local stations.
.....Like reintroducing the regional opt outs on Radio 4 ? They were abolsihed about 30 years ago in favour of local radio.
Well I'm not sure they'd get a younger demographic with Radio 4! Apparently local radio is squarely targetted at 55 year olds called Dave and Sue.
EX
Wednesday evening/Thursday morning at midnight-2am now under the BBC Introducing strand
Does Radio 1 still do opted programmes for the nations on a Thursday evening? If so, this makes this the only national network to do this...
Wednesday evening/Thursday morning at midnight-2am now under the BBC Introducing strand