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BBC to trial Scottish Six

(February 2016)

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SP
Steve in Pudsey
Presumably if BBC One Scotland closes down earlier than network they take the News Channel via the switchable clean feed circuit and somebody has to hang around until network closes down to switch back to the dirty network feed?
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A former member
Ive never know that to happen, espeical with all the timeshift and backlog of moved programmes.
MA
Markymark
Presumably if BBC One Scotland closes down earlier than network they take the News Channel via the switchable clean feed circuit and somebody has to hang around until network closes down to switch back to the dirty network feed?


Can't someone in W12 do that for them ? Isn't the routing controllable from both ends ?
IS
Inspector Sands
Presumably if BBC One Scotland closes down earlier than network they take the News Channel via the switchable clean feed circuit and somebody has to hang around until network closes down to switch back to the dirty network feed?


Can't someone in W12 do that for them ? Isn't the routing controllable from both ends ?

The routing of that circuit is but it requires someone in Glasgow to take the playout suite offline. Having the clean feed passing through an unmanned pres suite all night doesn't sound like a great idea
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Actually that's a good point - Glasgow CCA is remote controlled from W12 so they probably could take pres out of circuit from there and route the clean feed to air directly.
GE
thegeek Founding member
while it's technically possible, there are some political reasons why CCA wouldn't do it. Not least that (for now at least) there's a third party company involved!
PE
Pete19
Joe posted:
With cost being a major factor in everything, it would make much more sense to scrap the BBC News at One and BBC News at Six altogether.

Have One national News programme per day like in the US. Make BBC News at Ten that programme.

Allow the regional teams to put together their own News at One and News at Six, drawing on the national and international stories from the New Channel to suit the broadcast and region.

It means they wouldn't need to pay big presentation costs and if people want the core news they always have the News Channel to fall into.


So how would that save money?


It would save money because they wouldn't need to pay Big Presenter Salaries for the like of Sophie Haworth, George Alagiah and Reeta Chakrabarti.

For example. Joanna Goslin goes and sits on her bum for 30 minutes at allow the BBC News at One change to go on air, to then go back on air for 30 minutes more.

Let the Regionals produce a bulletin for 30 minutes, using the presenter that was going to do the 15 minute Lunchtime News.
NE
News96
Joe posted:
With cost being a major factor in everything, it would make much more sense to scrap the BBC News at One and BBC News at Six altogether.

Have One national News programme per day like in the US. Make BBC News at Ten that programme.

Allow the regional teams to put together their own News at One and News at Six, drawing on the national and international stories from the New Channel to suit the broadcast and region.

It means they wouldn't need to pay big presentation costs and if people want the core news they always have the News Channel to fall into.


So how would that save money?


It would save money because they wouldn't need to pay Big Presenter Salaries for the like of Sophie Haworth, George Alagiah and Reeta Chakrabarti.

For example. Joanna Goslin goes and sits on her bum for 30 minutes at allow the BBC News at One change to go on air, to then go back on air for 30 minutes more.

Let the Regionals produce a bulletin for 30 minutes, using the presenter that was going to do the 15 minute Lunchtime News.


Not Going to Happen! What a ridiculous idea!
SP
Steve in Pudsey
while it's technically possible, there are some political reasons why CCA wouldn't do it. Not least that (for now at least) there's a third party company involved!


Interesting. I would have expected CCA to have been involved in taking pres out of circuit at the end of the night as a matter of routine, in the same way that regional CTAs enable opt switches in studios.
GE
thegeek Founding member
that's under direction of the pres director, though - asking them to do it at a predefined time is a bit different...
RK
Rkolsen
Actually that's a good point - Glasgow CCA is remote controlled from W12 so they probably could take pres out of circuit from there and route the clean feed to air directly.


while it's technically possible, there are some political reasons why CCA wouldn't do it. Not least that (for now at least) there's a third party company involved!


Interesting. I would have expected CCA to have been involved in taking pres out of circuit at the end of the night as a matter of routine, in the same way that regional CTAs enable opt switches in studios.

Just reading all this "inside baseball" (or whatever the UK equivalent is) makes me wish there was a public schematic or a handbook outlining all the routes that can be taken and how. Hell I'd settle for the manual of the BNCS.
DO
dosxuk
Just reading all this "inside baseball" (or whatever the UK equivalent is) makes me wish there was a public schematic or a handbook outlining all the routes that can be taken and how. Hell I'd settle for the manual of the BNCS.


I suspect such a diagram would take inspiration from Douglas Adams - nobody knows for sure all the possibilities, and if anyone discovers them all, it'll all collapse in on itself and they'd have to start again.

Even on a single event / single building job I've occasionally had to set up routes that don't, on the face of it, seem possible. Trying to find all the possibilities on a national scale network would be, interesting!

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