BBC Three & Four 'poor value'

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So what time would BBC 4 start. The whole point is that the children's channels technically can't be on at the same time as BBC 3 and 4 - they share the same bandwidth on Freeview. Also I really don't see the point of simucasting the news on BBC 3 and N24 - if they have BBC3 they have N24 so there's no point.

Sorry - took me ages to come up with that

you must lead a fun filled life, why don't you go and play on some swings.

Well if BBC Three doesn't offer value for money then the Little Britain DVD does. Among the extra features is a couple of clean Little Britain BBC Three idents. So if anyone wants to do some mock BBC Three idents with their 3 is a magic number musak. Now is the chance as it has the clean musak with no interuptions. Marv.

Err - 60 Seconds hasn't gone anywhere - it is pretty much hourly between 2000 and 0000 7 days a week on BBC Three. It is usually at the top of the hour - schedule permitting.

Having read the review more carefully it seems a little "out of date" - with mentions of Liquid News and Celebdaq - both of which ceased transmission over 6 months ago. This suggests that the comments about the 7 O'Clock News may actually be at least partially referring to the earlier "Ben McCarthy and Sangita Myska" fronted 15 minute show, rather than the "Eddie Mair and Tazeen Ahmad" half an hour show.


I think the most significant problem that BBC Three has is the incredibly high number of repeats on the channel. If you keep seeing programmes you've already seen you eventually stop bothering to see if there is anything new actually being shown.

At least Liquid News was new every day - and different.

I think that the CBeebies close-down hour between 1800 and 1900 is really popular as a "go to bed" service.

Personally I think the Beeb should bite the bullet and consider extending the hours of BBC Three and BBC Four - splitting them from CBBC and CBeebies - at least on Cable and Satellite. I realise that Freeview is the stumbling block (as capacity is more restricted on that platform) - it is a pity that the BBCi video services launched on Freeview.

(I wonder if BBC Three / CBBC and one of the BBCi channels could run a 3 way share of 2 services - with BBC Three disappearing on Freeview if there was daytime BBCi stuff - when CBBC was on-air, but CBBC sharing with BBCi stuff out of daytime?)



When did you last see the BBC Three News bulletin trailled anywhere other than the end of the Six O'Clock News?

Indeed, and there is no "end of the Six O'Clock News" in the Nations!

I was thinking of something along these lines myself, but a more simple plan would be have CBBC and CBeebies simply share with 701 and 702. Most programmes that make use of the two interactive screens are broadcast in the evening, and so, although I'm not normally around to check, I doubt these two channels are ever used in daytime for anything worthwhile (Wimbledon being the only exception I can think of).

So I think BBC3 and BBC4 should take priority over BBCi services; I don't think it would be a good idea to take BBC3 off Freeview to make way for BBCi, it seems to be reinforce the impression that DTT offers an inferior service to satellite, like when we used to lose BBC Knowledge after midday at weekends. In the case of BBC Parliament, it still does offer an inferior service.

How about the Open Golf and the Olympics Interactive - they both use 701 and 702 quite a lot in daytime...

I agree - the same programmes are shown several times a night and on 2 or 3 nights a week on BBC3, there's such poor information about what's on that I usually end up tuning into the same episodes again and again (then turning off) rather than seeing new ones.

With BBC4, they tend to repeat the same programmes over and over on the same night too, so if there's nothing interesting between 7 and 9, then your stuffed for the rest of the night too, speaking generally. Yet when there was a timeshift documentary on recently that I missed (twice in the same week) I was told by email that they had no plans to show it again, ever!

Why can't both channels show a series, with maybe a late night repeat somewhere for the duration of its run, then a few months later show it all again - like on BBC 1 & 2 with repeats.

I agree with those saying BBC3 should repeat some programmes off BBC 1 &2 - for example I really liked "I am not an animal"(weird at first but it was a real grower!) - yet it was only shown once on BBC2, no repeat late at night or on BBC 3, and I would have thought it was more of a BBC 3 programme anyway - again no plans to reshow it anywhere.

BBC3 should reshow Doctors at 7pm - it deserves a peak time slot.
BBC 4 ought to repeat more classic documentary series, concerts, "Play for Todays" or black and white stuff that UK Gold won't touch through the night - really plunder the vaults - this would be much better than repeating the new stuff over and over - it's just wasted airtime.

I really liked "Dreamspaces" on BBC3 , it covered a subject rarely touched by TV and in a "modern" way. What I really don't like is the assumption that all 24 - 34 yr olds are into "celebrity" - no one I know in that age range gives a stuff about them - they just want good quality, entertainment and factual programmes.

Perhaps, but wasn't it called the News Show then?