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Does BBC South Today need a new studio? (October 2014)

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NG
noggin Founding member
Is the right-hand screen a plasma with the others light boxes - they don't come close to matching if they are trying to make it look seamless.

They are all plasmas. The one 2nd from left tends to get used to display a graphic of the story being discussed.


Hmm - then someone needs to look at them. They are a country mile out in terms of colour balance.
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DE
deejay
If they're the same plasmas as those in use at the Mailbox they suffer hugely from appearing to have a different colour balance compared to the camera angle.
NG
noggin Founding member
Strange - it's usually LCDs that suffer from that, and one of the major reasons plasmas are usually preferred over LCDs in studios.

Now that plasmas are effectively out of production, it's a potential issue in new studios. Even the most recent LCDs suffer noticeable saturation changes as you move horizontally and vertically off-axis, though the colour shifts seem to be less bad than they once were.
DE
deejay
Poor choice of terminology on my part there, I have a habit of calling any flatscreen TV a 'plasma'.
DK
DanielK
Strange - it's usually LCDs that suffer from that, and one of the major reasons plasmas are usually preferred over LCDs in studios.

Now that plasmas are effectively out of production, it's a potential issue in new studios. Even the most recent LCDs suffer noticeable saturation changes as you move horizontally and vertically off-axis, though the colour shifts seem to be less bad than they once were.


It probably won't make a difference as only a select few manufacturers got up to 103" (seems to be the standard size to screens these days).
NG
noggin Founding member
Poor choice of terminology on my part there, I have a habit of calling any flatscreen TV a 'plasma'.


Slapped wrist!

Ah - if they are LCDs then chances are they also having to be routed through colour correctors (plasmas are usually OK on-camera with the standard 'in display' adjustments, though getting them dim enough can often require finding a hidden menu and don't usually require a CoCo, but LCDs almost always do) - at that point you really need to know what you are doing and to be careful, as well as coping with off-axis stuff.

Plasmas are still definitely better on-camera than LCDs in most situations.
NG
noggin Founding member
Strange - it's usually LCDs that suffer from that, and one of the major reasons plasmas are usually preferred over LCDs in studios.

Now that plasmas are effectively out of production, it's a potential issue in new studios. Even the most recent LCDs suffer noticeable saturation changes as you move horizontally and vertically off-axis, though the colour shifts seem to be less bad than they once were.


It probably won't make a difference as only a select few manufacturers got up to 103" (seems to be the standard size to screens these days).


Not sure what you mean?
DK
DanielK
Strange - it's usually LCDs that suffer from that, and one of the major reasons plasmas are usually preferred over LCDs in studios.

Now that plasmas are effectively out of production, it's a potential issue in new studios. Even the most recent LCDs suffer noticeable saturation changes as you move horizontally and vertically off-axis, though the colour shifts seem to be less bad than they once were.


It probably won't make a difference as only a select few manufacturers got up to 103" (seems to be the standard size to screens these days).


Not sure what you mean?

You said the colour shift on recent LCD's isn't as bad as older ones, I was saying that since most manufacturers don't make or release new 103" LCD's (which is what is most commonly used in studios), that it wouldn't make much of a difference.
NG
noggin Founding member
Strange - it's usually LCDs that suffer from that, and one of the major reasons plasmas are usually preferred over LCDs in studios.

Now that plasmas are effectively out of production, it's a potential issue in new studios. Even the most recent LCDs suffer noticeable saturation changes as you move horizontally and vertically off-axis, though the colour shifts seem to be less bad than they once were.


It probably won't make a difference as only a select few manufacturers got up to 103" (seems to be the standard size to screens these days).


Not sure what you mean?

You said the colour shift on recent LCD's isn't as bad as older ones, I was saying that since most manufacturers don't make or release new 103" LCD's (which is what is most commonly used in studios), that it wouldn't make much of a difference.


Ah - couldn't quite work out what you were referring to. My point was that LCDs are getting better - and so you are seeing them used for down-the-line screens more than previously (when plasmas were used). The BBC studios in W1 use LCDs for their down-the-line screens, with plasmas and LED matrix for the larger "architectural" screens.

Now that Panasonic and Samsung (and I think soon LG) have ceased plasma production, there is a bit of a gap over 80-85" in the mainstream display market for the time being - as most manufacturers top out their LCD ranges around there. The 103" Panasonic was a workhorse in TV studios for many years.

I guess fine-pitch LED matrix (not LED backlit LCD) is expected to pick up the larger screen displays now - though 100+" LCDs are beginning to be demoed.
DO
dosxuk
I saw a couple of very fine pitch modular LED screen being demoed at PLASA last week. A couple of metres away you couldn't see the individual pixels. Still low-res compared to a 100+" plasma, but probably cheaper than an LCD of equivalent size, but with all the advantages of modularity.
NG
noggin Founding member
I saw a couple of very fine pitch modular LED screen being demoed at PLASA last week. A couple of metres away you couldn't see the individual pixels. Still low-res compared to a 100+" plasma, but probably cheaper than an LCD of equivalent size, but with all the advantages of modularity.


I saw some very good stuff at IBC last year (couldn't get to Amsterdam this year as was working flat out). Fine for large screen backdrops - but the big advantage of the 103" HD plasma is that you can shoot them quite tightly and they go nicely soft rather than pixelly.
FL
flaziola
I think An Lá is in most need of a whole new studio. Razz

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