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The new opening sequence (August 2004)

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IT
itsrobert Founding member
I noticed a couple of weeks ago, after returning home from a holiday, that the Six O'clock News have ditched the opening sequence they introduced in January 2003, with one presenter stood at the screen. They now both sit at the desk. I always thought the first sequence was a bit messy, but this one is just as bad. For some reason, they insist on doing these long rambling headlines, and just re-starting the headline bed music after each one. It makes it sound really disjointed. Wouldn't it be easier to write shorter headlines and use the normal bed with the bongs every five seconds? That's how the One O'clock News open the bulletin, and I think it's much sleaker.
KA
Kaplinsky
Yeah, I agree with what you have said. Still, they must of done it for a reason.
JA
jamesmd
I always thought the new six was a pile of spanners, and now i can confirm it's true. I HATE the new studio, and have done since the start, and the crap camera angles don't do the programme any favours. Why not just have one presenter read a headline to camera A, then one to camera B, and so on. Makes sense and doesn't require that sh!te shot.
KA
Kaplinsky
It has changed alot in the past couple of months. Maybe its Sian contributing all the ideas! Whens sophie back?
IT
itsrobert Founding member
James Hall posted:
I always thought the new six was a pile of spanners, and now i can confirm it's true. I HATE the new studio, and have done since the start, and the crap camera angles don't do the programme any favours. Why not just have one presenter read a headline to camera A, then one to camera B, and so on. Makes sense and doesn't require that sh!te shot.


Yeah, they're trying to over-complicate things. All the need to do visually is what you said there, and in terms of audio, the bed they used from 1999, with the bongs pre-burned. Much easier, and it would make a lot of difference to the start of the programme.

I've never liked the long rambling headlines, though. They started that with the Ten O'clock News in January 2003. For some reason, they insist on almost telling a story, then telling us 'we'll be asking.....", before continuing with the other headlines. I'd much prefer short and sharp headlines that get to the point.

EDIT - ITV News seem to have mastered the headlines sequence. There's a hint of this "we'll be asking/investigating", but most of the headlines are short, punctuated by the bongs.
AJ
AJ
itsrobert posted:
James Hall posted:
I always thought the new six was a pile of spanners, and now i can confirm it's true. I HATE the new studio, and have done since the start, and the crap camera angles don't do the programme any favours. Why not just have one presenter read a headline to camera A, then one to camera B, and so on. Makes sense and doesn't require that sh!te shot.


Yeah, they're trying to over-complicate things. All the need to do visually is what you said there, and in terms of audio, the bed they used from 1999, with the bongs pre-burned. Much easier, and it would make a lot of difference to the start of the programme.

I've never liked the long rambling headlines, though. They started that with the Ten O'clock News in January 2003. For some reason, they insist on almost telling a story, then telling us 'we'll be asking.....", before continuing with the other headlines. I'd much prefer short and sharp headlines that get to the point.

EDIT - ITV News seem to have mastered the headlines sequence. There's a hint of this "we'll be asking/investigating", but most of the headlines are short, punctuated by the bongs.


The rambling headlines idea seems to have come from "Sky News Today" - although they know how to do it in a much better way IMO.
PE
Pete Founding member
If they are going to ramble on they need to do it properly like on BBC4's The "dull stories about middle east women" World where they yammer on about one single thing for nine days and then play the closing sting.

Oh no that's the actual show isn't it.
:-(
A former member
Hymagumba posted:
If they are going to ramble on they need to do it properly like on BBC4's The "dull stories about middle east women" World where they yammer on about one single thing for nine days and then play the closing sting.

Oh no that's the actual show isn't it.


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WM
Weather Man
I wonder what it would look like if the two presenters were presenting the show in the old set, with one standing and and one sitting! I wonder what the programe would look like then. Being Bizzare, in the virtual studio!! Madness!
WM
Weather Man
Dont imagine( here they are)
http://www.freewebs.com/bungaholic/6_inv.jpg
That is the in the old virtual studio. Note, Sophie standing wouldn't happen! Duh!!
http://www.freewebs.com/bungaholic/6_inold.jpg
In the 1999-2003 studio. I like this one the best

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CU
cummig20
Another slight change on the 6 tonight, the camera did not zoom in close during the weather, which I must say I preferred because usually the bottom bar is cut off at the bottom and right.
BN
Breakfast News
I did notice that about the weather - and agreed it looked better.

Another thing that doesn't happen now- and hasn't for ages is the red things at the side - they all remain that bright red. Before they used to get darker on the Ten - but now they are virtually the same as on the One and Six. It looked better then - because it had more 'texture' whereas now it is one plain colour across the board.

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