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BBC to move more roles outwith London

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RD
Roger Darthwell
BBC1 used to have full regional continuity for the English regions, but they were abolished in 1980 due to budget cuts, this ''tailored BBC1'' for the North of England will be the first time since 1980 where continuity will be based purely in the English regions and not from London.......could this be a shape of things to come? Will the English regions have once again full continuity just like before 1980?
BR
Brekkie
Interesting stuff. Newsnight to be presented from different regional bases throughout the year is interesting.

Radio 1 Newsbeat to Birmingham is curious, Salford might have been a more logical choice to share resources with Newsround in producing news for younger (but different) audiences

I suspect we'll get future BBC plans to co-locate services rather than have them spread around the country as a cost cutting service.

Newsnight feels really unloved now - not only booted around Broadcasting House, but now around the country. I think it's fine to move it out of London (though really it needs access to Westminster MPs) but give it one base rather than move it.
NE
Newsroom

BBC Regional News will also be in HD from the end of 2022 and there will be a "tailored" BBC1 for some English regions:



Interesting. It looks as if the NE, NW, and Yorkshire regions might become (in BBC terms) Lite-Nations with their own pres, and extra non news output ? That might be why regional BBC 1 HD in all regions suddenly becomes affordable /viable ?

I suspect what it really means is some of the sub-regions may go in order to require fewer HD variants - disguising cuts (probably necessary in this case IMO for the greater benefit of HD) as something positive. I do think though a bigger HD region with a supporting more local bulletin on the iPlayer would be the best way forward.

Regional presentation would be a complete unnecessary waste of money and something most viewers wouldn't care less about - the same as whether a show is in a studio in Salford or London. Hope though Morning Live moving North meansa they finally do something with the Salford studio though.


If this move to Salford means a new studio for Morning Live, we can live in hope that Breakfast might finally get a long overdue refresh.
MA
Markymark
BBC1 used to have full regional continuity for the English regions, but they were abolished in 1980 due to budget cuts, this ''tailored BBC1'' for the North of England will be the first time since 1980 where continuity will be based purely in the English regions and not from London.......could this be a shape of things to come? Will the English regions have once again full continuity just like before 1980?


I'd be amazed if regional pres was anything more than the local presenters recording links in batch, and sending them to Red Bee in W12

In fact, it's amazing that the nations are still doing pres in house, and locally
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WM
WMD
BBC1 used to have full regional continuity for the English regions, but they were abolished in 1980 due to budget cuts, this ''tailored BBC1'' for the North of England will be the first time since 1980 where continuity will be based purely in the English regions and not from London.......could this be a shape of things to come? Will the English regions have once again full continuity just like before 1980?


I'd be amazed if regional pres was anything more than the local presenters recording links in batch, and sending them to Red Bee in W12

In fact, it's amazing that the nations are still doing pres in house, and locally


Although we know that Salford has facilities for producing and distributing BBC One network pres, both in terms of the CA and Net1 output. Perhaps the plan is to use that for a 'BBC One North' to the four northern regions, that each can still opt out of for regional programmes? I'd be very surprised if each of the four regions gets its own presentation operation.

Mixed messages though - why ditch the English regions current affairs strand, if they're so keen to 'represent the whole of the UK'?
IS
Inspector Sands
I'd have thought the 'Tailored BBC1' would just a slightly different version of BBC1 coming from playout - just another output of the suite playing some split trails. It's not going to be a totally separate operation coming out of one of the regional centres.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Interesting stuff. Newsnight to be presented from different regional bases throughout the year is interesting.

Radio 1 Newsbeat to Birmingham is curious, Salford might have been a more logical choice to share resources with Newsround in producing news for younger (but different) audiences

Moving Newsbeat away from Radio 1 itself means it may become a less integrated service, at the moment Newsbeat feels just as much part of the station as the rest of the schedule, rather than them throwing to a seperate team that they’ve never met
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AM
Alfie Mulcahy

Interesting. It looks as if the NE, NW, and Yorkshire regions might become (in BBC terms) Lite-Nations with their own pres, and extra non news output ? That might be why regional BBC 1 HD in all regions suddenly becomes affordable /viable ?

I suspect what it really means is some of the sub-regions may go in order to require fewer HD variants - disguising cuts (probably necessary in this case IMO for the greater benefit of HD) as something positive. I do think though a bigger HD region with a supporting more local bulletin on the iPlayer would be the best way forward.

Regional presentation would be a complete unnecessary waste of money and something most viewers wouldn't care less about - the same as whether a show is in a studio in Salford or London. Hope though Morning Live moving North meansa they finally do something with the Salford studio though.


If this move to Salford means a new studio for Morning Live, we can live in hope that Breakfast might finally get a long overdue refresh.


I can see them opting for a window view for morning live. Possibly converting offices.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
I'd have thought the 'Tailored BBC1' would just a slightly different version of BBC1 coming from playout - just another output of the suite playing some split trails. It's not going to be a totally separate operation coming out of one of the regional centres.


Or from RedBee's existing Salford facility which does run BBC One network on occasion?
MI
m_in_m
I'm not sure I am keen on a BBC One for the north if it largely just means using northern voices. I'd be far more keen on continuity operating from the north on a more frequent basis say 50% of the time. I'd like to hear a range of voices on BBC One not just London.
PA
Parker
I can hear the continuity voice overs now...

"This BBC North from ULL, its not really good enough, what have you to say to our viewers" Very Happy
HO
House
The Today programme co-presenting over a third of their editions from outside London perhaps explain why they've suddenly added a fifth regular presenter after doing fine with just four – there's absolutely no point in being on location or reporting from outside London if you're only going to talk to the same guests DTL, so presumably the presenters will do more of the reporting and features they usually do when on location (which thus requires more of the team, on top of travel).

Still, though, that seems like a lot of expense for no real gain beyond optics. Same with Newsnight: moving London-based presenters and producers, and technical crew at least some of the time, around the country all the time just racks up travel and hotel costs without particularly contributing to non-London economies, or increasing output. Just months after the BBC's latest round of 'we need to avoid duplication – send one reporter to cover for all networks, not a specialist per programme, more generic content etc.' they're now doing this. Moving staff permanently out of London makes more sense long-term, but is still a short term expense the BBC cannot really afford right now.

The sensible thing for Newsnight to do would simply be have Kirsty Wark predominantly present from Scotland, as she did at points during the pandemic. Doesn't change the need for studio, if not gallery crews with her, though, but I think the pandemic has shown a number of staff for a programme (producers, editors etc.) can be located away from where it's filming without detriment.

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