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BBC Regional News Ratings Beat ITV

(April 2005)

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CY
cylon6
It's interesting that BBC Regional News seems to be getting it right but the Six O'Clock News is losing ground to the ITV Evening Bulletin. In the old days the BBC always won and by a huge margin, these days the gap has been narrowed and on several occasions the Six has been overtaken!! Shocked
EM
EmleyMoor
cylon6 posted:
It's interesting that BBC Regional News seems to be getting it right but the Six O'Clock News is losing ground to the ITV Evening Bulletin. In the old days the BBC always won and by a huge margin, these days the gap has been narrowed and on several occasions the Six has been overtaken!! Shocked


Let's not forget what is up against the BBC 6 and ITV Regional news....The Simpsons and Home and Away which are very popular.
Little wonder then that at 6.30 people want national or regional news that they may have watched at 6 were it not for the competition.
UB
Uncle Bruce
EmleyMoor posted:

Monday 18th April

Ne Tonight 34% BBC News 19%
ITV EN 33% Look North 29%

Lookaround 29% BBC News 16%
ITV EN 39% Look North 21%

Meridian Tonight 31% BBC News 26%
ITV EN 29% South/South East Today 28%


Do you fancy looking back and finding the day the BBC are talking about?

I mean, great - you've proved that for one day ITV beat the BBC - but clearly there must have been a recent reverse on one day for the BBC to have issued this release.

I'm not doubting what you're saying about the trend in those areas, I'm just saying you're assertation that Broadcast lied is probably wrong.
CY
cylon6
EmleyMoor posted:
Let's not forget what is up against the BBC 6 and ITV Regional news....The Simpsons and Home and Away which are very popular.
Little wonder then that at 6.30 people want national or regional news that they may have watched at 6 were it not for the competition.


The thing is though the Six went up against these programmes when The Simpsons was on BBC2, there has been a noticeable shift in loyalty. Also with Sky I can see the regional BBC bulletins they seem professional enough but I'm not sure why they are number one in their respective regions.
TE
TELEVISION
Well BBC Regional News in our region certainly does not beat Border's Lookaround. Both Reporting Scotland and Look North largely ignore our area.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Bring back Lawley and Witchell, and the Six ratings share would increase dramatically.

Send Sophie and George out to the regions.
CY
cylon6
BBC WORLD posted:
Bring back Lawley and Witchell, and the Six ratings share would increase dramatically.

Send Sophie and George out to the regions.


Alagiah has no gravitas and Sophie was great with Jeremy Bowen on Breakfast.
EM
EmleyMoor
Uncle Bruce posted:
EmleyMoor posted:

Monday 18th April

Ne Tonight 34% BBC News 19%
ITV EN 33% Look North 29%

Lookaround 29% BBC News 16%
ITV EN 39% Look North 21%

Meridian Tonight 31% BBC News 26%
ITV EN 29% South/South East Today 28%


Do you fancy looking back and finding the day the BBC are talking about?

I mean, great - you've proved that for one day ITV beat the BBC - but clearly there must have been a recent reverse on one day for the BBC to have issued this release.

I'm not doubting what you're saying about the trend in those areas, I'm just saying you're assertation that Broadcast lied is probably wrong.


That would take ages to go trough the figures but I do see Borders and TTTVs on a regular (almost daily) basis and with very few exceptions the ITV regional shows beat BBC 9 times out of 10.
I think Broadcast may just have reprinted a BBC press release which quoted certain figures-you know what they say about statistics! Smile
JE
Jez Founding member
Mortimer Cross posted:


So what is ITV regional news getting so wrong?


Well I can only speak for ITV Wales News as thats the only ITV regional news I watch on a regular basis (I have occasionally seen West, London Tonight (via the news channel), Central and Granada). I think ITV Wales overall provides a good service, the only bit I dont like is all these competitions and asking people to text and e-mail with their views, they do all that too often. I cant fault much else about their coverage, and Lucy and Jon present it, what more do people want?
MO
monkey
I would be very surprised if Central News South (possibly the best regional news programme in the country) is beaten by South Today, whose Oxford opt-out is half hearted tokensim of the lowest order.
I would imagine that the figures take the figures for the macro ITV regions and compare them against the BBC regions which do not always share the same geographic spread.
So, the tripartite Central News is probably counted as one programme and compared with Midlands Today.
Does anyone have more info on how the figures were calculated?
BO
boring_user_name
The likelihood of the pathetic South Today Oxford sub-opt gaining higher ratings than Central South does seem quite low.
The BBC just seems to be capitalising on the ratings of one anomalous night. I would like to see the data in full!
CY
cylon6
boring_user_name posted:
The likelihood of the pathetic South Today Oxford sub-opt gaining higher ratings than Central South does seem quite low.
The BBC just seems to be capitalising on the ratings of one anomalous night. I would like to see the data in full!


Yes this doesn't sound like a Broadcast report more like something a BBC spokesperson might say.

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