DO
No, they didn't 'move' production from Brimingham to Manchester.
When Edwina Currie/Richard Bacon/Stephen Nolan came from Birmingham, the programme was produced by 1 guy (who's now editor of the Asian Network breakfast show, which also now comes from Birmingham, when it previously came from Leicester) and a couple of freelancers. It was a dumb situation, and there was no continuity with the rest of 5 Live.
The team in Manchester that now produce the show were already there doing stuff for 5 Live day to day. They are 5 Live's people, and have worked on other bits of the output in the past.
marksi posted:
Of course. They've already moved production of the show from Birmingham to Manchester, and while it's not quite the same in terms of distance, you *could* move the whole production to Belfast.
No, they didn't 'move' production from Brimingham to Manchester.
When Edwina Currie/Richard Bacon/Stephen Nolan came from Birmingham, the programme was produced by 1 guy (who's now editor of the Asian Network breakfast show, which also now comes from Birmingham, when it previously came from Leicester) and a couple of freelancers. It was a dumb situation, and there was no continuity with the rest of 5 Live.
The team in Manchester that now produce the show were already there doing stuff for 5 Live day to day. They are 5 Live's people, and have worked on other bits of the output in the past.
SP
Now I thought that was the big benefit of non-geographical phone numbers, you could have a set up which allows the number to be diverted to anywhere you want to.
Like Radio Leeds have an 0845 number which can be set to either the Leeds studio or the Bradford one - they used to give out either an 0113 or an 01274 number depending on which studios they were using for the Breakfast show.
Dog posted:
The problems Nolan has with the phones are nothing to do with him, or his producer. The answer is because the technical set up in Manchester is really, really crap.
Although the show comes from Manchester, all the phones and lines come though a London studio.
If anyone one here knows anything about 'clean feed', you'd know about the nightmare this causes.
Although the show comes from Manchester, all the phones and lines come though a London studio.
If anyone one here knows anything about 'clean feed', you'd know about the nightmare this causes.
Now I thought that was the big benefit of non-geographical phone numbers, you could have a set up which allows the number to be diverted to anywhere you want to.
Like Radio Leeds have an 0845 number which can be set to either the Leeds studio or the Bradford one - they used to give out either an 0113 or an 01274 number depending on which studios they were using for the Breakfast show.
WE
Now I thought that was the big benefit of non-geographical phone numbers, you could have a set up which allows the number to be diverted to anywhere you want to.
Like Radio Leeds have an 0845 number which can be set to either the Leeds studio or the Bradford one - they used to give out either an 0113 or an 01274 number depending on which studios they were using for the Breakfast show.
Is there scope for a technical problem there then?
BBC Midlands have a similar set up where 08453 3039303 is used by BBC Nottingham for the Monday to Friday Late Show(last time I listened!), but additionally by BBC Shropshire on their weekend Late Shows(the Keith Middleton ones)!
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Dog posted:
The problems Nolan has with the phones are nothing to do with him, or his producer. The answer is because the technical set up in Manchester is really, really crap.
Although the show comes from Manchester, all the phones and lines come though a London studio.
If anyone one here knows anything about 'clean feed', you'd know about the nightmare this causes.
Although the show comes from Manchester, all the phones and lines come though a London studio.
If anyone one here knows anything about 'clean feed', you'd know about the nightmare this causes.
Now I thought that was the big benefit of non-geographical phone numbers, you could have a set up which allows the number to be diverted to anywhere you want to.
Like Radio Leeds have an 0845 number which can be set to either the Leeds studio or the Bradford one - they used to give out either an 0113 or an 01274 number depending on which studios they were using for the Breakfast show.
Is there scope for a technical problem there then?
BBC Midlands have a similar set up where 08453 3039303 is used by BBC Nottingham for the Monday to Friday Late Show(last time I listened!), but additionally by BBC Shropshire on their weekend Late Shows(the Keith Middleton ones)!
SP
ah now that rings a bell - when Harry Gratian used to do a sport phone in on Radio Leeds, York, Sheffield and Humberside on Friday nights they borrowed the 0845 number that was used by the late show originating from Manchester for it - 0845 951951 from memory, 95.1 being GMR's frequency.
It's not very different to all of the TLRC stations putting their local numbers through to wherever the network show is coming from really.
It's not very different to all of the TLRC stations putting their local numbers through to wherever the network show is coming from really.
DA
I used to really enjoy the Edwina Currie and Richard Bacon shows, they were cracking I think. The only minor problem was the fact they ALWAYS mentioned Birmingham, as if to justify the fact they were there instead of London by continuously telling you about it.
I think one of the key factors is to fulfill the BBC's obligation to produce a certain amount of programmes outside London. Another example is Janice Long and Alex Lester on Radio 2 coming from Birmingham, even when it could be easier for them to do it from elsewhere.
I suppose it's a nice quirky thing though.
On the subject of (non-)geographical telephone numbers, there are two contrasting methods used by the BBC Local Radio stations round these parts during regional networking. In the Eastern Counties, there is one number - 0845 30 50 007 - which, presumeably, diverts to whatever station is in charge at the time. In the South however, the power of modern technology allows split jingles which give out the correct phone number for each station. Presumeably, these are diverted to the ruling station at a later stage.
DAS
Founding member
Dog posted:
When Edwina Currie/Richard Bacon/Stephen Nolan came from Birmingham, the programme was produced by 1 guy (who's now editor of the Asian Network breakfast show, which also now comes from Birmingham, when it previously came from Leicester) and a couple of freelancers. It was a dumb situation, and there was no continuity with the rest of 5 Live.
I used to really enjoy the Edwina Currie and Richard Bacon shows, they were cracking I think. The only minor problem was the fact they ALWAYS mentioned Birmingham, as if to justify the fact they were there instead of London by continuously telling you about it.
I think one of the key factors is to fulfill the BBC's obligation to produce a certain amount of programmes outside London. Another example is Janice Long and Alex Lester on Radio 2 coming from Birmingham, even when it could be easier for them to do it from elsewhere.
I suppose it's a nice quirky thing though.
On the subject of (non-)geographical telephone numbers, there are two contrasting methods used by the BBC Local Radio stations round these parts during regional networking. In the Eastern Counties, there is one number - 0845 30 50 007 - which, presumeably, diverts to whatever station is in charge at the time. In the South however, the power of modern technology allows split jingles which give out the correct phone number for each station. Presumeably, these are diverted to the ruling station at a later stage.
DA
DAS
Founding member
(And for the pedants, rather than those who actually care, the East have "recently" adopted the method of split jingles in place of the generic sound the stations had after 7. I always thought the generic sound was much neater and easier on the ears, rather than the jarring, usually misplaced split jingles that crashed in when they were required.)
PE
peterrocket
Founding member
Yet he still manages to do the show on Sunday to 1am and within 8 hours is on BBC Radio Ulster.
I know there's a flight to get in to Belfast at 8am but that's pushing it a bit!
I know there's a flight to get in to Belfast at 8am but that's pushing it a bit!