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BBC Parliament to repeat EU referendum results

Sat 23rd June (June 2018)

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Worzel
23rd June - should be a national holiday! Smile

The real "horror" as some have put it above, is not the result but the utterly pathetic implementation of the result from this government. Cameron should have been as good as his word when he said if there was a vote to leave the EU he would trigger Article 50 the day after the referendum by going to Brussels. We could have been formally exiting the EU in just 2 weeks if he'd done so.

It's quite enjoyable when the Parliament channel schedules old election programmes. I think I saw parts of the 1975 referendum a couple of years ago and have also enjoyed seeing the 1979 General Election. Not sure what else they've shown. It does seem they don't cross promote the Parliament channel on the BBC, I wonder why?

Maybe they could start showing some of the old Question Time editions going back to 1979 with Robin Day. I bet some of those discussions could be utterly fascinating in hindsight from various politicians of the past. I presume the BBC kept them all.


David Cameron was asked during the referendum campaign QT debate if he would stay on as PM in the event of a leave vote, he said 'it would be right to stay'. Bit like some of the promises on both sides, he went back on his word.

AxG posted:


Didn't think Independence Day was a horror film or programme. Wink

No, but it is a disaster film…


Can we see the 1975 referendum results coverage again? You know, the one where it was rammed down everyones throats that it was 'just a common market'? Talk about 'lies' during the 2016 referendum, what about the big one that lasted 50 years?

Unless you can see the future and are indeed Mystic Meg, Brexit will be deemed a success or failure once we've fully left, lets wait and see what happens shall we.

We are a great country, we've been bombed to death in two world wars, have lived with the fear of terrorist attacks since the IRA days, have a seat on the UN security council and are a member of the G7 to name just some. Quit with the negativity to gain a few brownie points.

Anyway back to TV Pres...
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VMPhil
Erm. You’re the one bringing the negativity. I just pointed out it was a disaster film.
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Richard
23rd June - should be a national holiday! Smile



How about some commemorative stamps?





https://twitter.com/anna_soubry/status/970945873684389888?s=21


Not sure if you're being slightly sarcastic fellow Rich, anyway.......


Yes.



But it does seem that the Royal Mail is not yet planning for an official Brexit stamp. They should be doing.



They shouldn’t be celebrating failure.

But, hey, TV and that. I think it’s far too early to repeat the Brexit coverage. We’re still in the middle of it all. Maybe in a few years once we know what’s happening long term.
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itsrobert Founding member
We are a great country, we've been bombed to death in two world wars, have lived with the fear of terrorist attacks since the IRA days, have a seat on the UN security council and are a member of the G7 to name just some. Quit with the negativity to gain a few brownie points.

And we couldn't have achieved any of that without the support and cooperation of our allies. In a world that is ever more connected, integrated and globalised, going it alone just seems a nonsensical decision. And as regards the two world wars you mention - both of which resulted from extremist nationalistic jingoism...
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Worzel
We are a great country, we've been bombed to death in two world wars, have lived with the fear of terrorist attacks since the IRA days, have a seat on the UN security council and are a member of the G7 to name just some. Quit with the negativity to gain a few brownie points.

In a world that is ever more connected.


Yes, the fundamental word being World as you say, not just Europe.

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extremist nationalistic jingoism


Oh, everyone who voted leave must be extremist hey? Sounds like some of the tripe put out by the remain side in the campaign.

Anyway, this is turning into a bit of a DigitalSpy minefield, shall we just go back to the pres...
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itsrobert Founding member
I give up Rolling Eyes If there was a facepalm emoticon I'd be using it right now.
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Worzel
I give up Rolling Eyes If there was a facepalm emoticon I'd be using it right now.


You see, they're the types of condescending remarks which led, in part, to the leave vote in the first place.
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Jon
I give up Rolling Eyes If there was a facepalm emoticon I'd be using it right now.


You see, they're the types of condescending remarks which led, in part, to the leave vote in the first place.

No it was three very rich men with the power to influence millions, to whom the outcome would make very little difference in terms of their personal fortunes that lead to the leave vote.
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itsrobert Founding member
I'm not being condescending. I am merely flabbergasted that someone could suggest that Europe and the world are somehow unrelated. Like it or not, cooperation with our closest geographic neighbours and allies is essential not least to achieve all those things you mention - fighting terrorism, wars and much more. I would certainly prefer our country to be on the inside of the club making the decisions, rather than being on the outside suffering the consequences of decisions taken by others. The greatest lesson my grandparents gave me was never to forget history, for those who ignore it are doomed to repeat it.
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Worzel
I'm not being condescending. I am merely flabbergasted that someone could suggest that Europe and the world are somehow unrelated. Like it or not, cooperation with our closest geographic neighbours and allies is essential not least to achieve all those things you mention - fighting terrorism, wars and much more. I would certainly prefer our country to be on the inside of the club making the decisions, rather than being on the outside suffering the consequences of decisions taken by others. The greatest lesson my grandparents gave me was never to forget history, for those who ignore it are doomed to repeat it.


Goodness me, you do have to wonder how the 150 odd other countries outside the EU survive. You're clearly very bitter at the result, and we're not going to agree. So let's agree to disagree, move on and talk about some TV pres, which we're supposed to be here to do and we might actually find something to agree on.
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Jon
There’s a difference between someone being ‘bitter’ than somebody thinking there was a mistake made and believing the outcome will be rather bleak.
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itsrobert Founding member
You're right, I am very bitter about the result and the last two years since the referendum have done nothing to assuage me of that. I feel that we have been led down a very uncertain path by the slimmest of margins based on the blatant lies of a political elite who don't care a jot about hard working ordinary people like me and didn't have the balls to stick around and finish what they had started.

And it's not just about Brexit - I am very worried about the state of the whole world right now. I can see a growing trend towards a jingoistic, selfish "I'm only in it for myself" attitude from countries and individuals around me. Maybe being a history graduate isn't helping me here because I have studied and realise that patterns are emerging from times in history we really don't want to be repeating.

If that makes me bitter, then so be it.

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