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Truly awful - the newsreader is there to read the news, not comment on it. It's not up to them to determine what is "good" or "bad" news - as the old saying goes, sometimes "no news is good news", though in the case of news organisations it's generally a case of "bad news is good news" I suppose!

But the current beds IMO would bring a lot more gravitas to it. If they could get around the dreadful Newsbeat style delivery, it could become a success. Perhaps *hint* Moira could be drafted in to read the updates?

Quick, before she shuffles off into the sunset of ITN!

You are deluded, how on earth would putting some dance music on add gravitas, esp. when it has none to start with? Maybe if they laid a drum-loop down in the 6 o'clock news it would suddenly become informed and meaningful instead of gimmicky and patronising?

All very negative here.

I liked it a lot, with the regional news too it will be a useful catch-up, something the other main channels don't really offer.

And just because it's written in a 'friendly' style, doesn't make it any less important or dumbed down. It's just moved away from journalistic cliches you've grown up with.

You've got to remember a lot of people are turned off by news, or tune away from it, by making it personal and emotional you can maybe entice new viewers to this and to the longer bulletins.

Remember to we, and by that I mean the TV Forum community, are quite traditionalist and are not too keen on change.

I don't think it's dumbed down, it's something different. I like it and thought it worked.

What rot. It might not have dumbed down, but that's only because it can't go much lower anyway. If someone can't be bothered to watch the news just because the presenters are too unfriendly then they shouldn't bother watching, ditto anyone that can't handle information without a human story attached or a quack science lecture.

As much as I would like to ignore television news broadcasting the fact is a large majority of people don't and therefore it wields a huge influence. Which stories are covered and what information is held back on or given are often misjudged with awful editorial standards. This isn't a large downward leap in quality but it is sufficient enough to observe.

Except that ORF delivers a succinct round up of the day's news without patronising viewers tabloid style. But agreed - very similar use of the screens!

I personally agree that a regional update would be a far better use of the time - providing a public service of worth which isn't offered by competitors. If viewers want a round up of the national news in the evening there is News 24, for international news there's The World.

If I wanted to get the latest international stories quickly then I'd be wasting 30 minutes of my life - it's just 3 or 4 very in depth reports with a quick roundup of 2 or 3 other stories.

Well you're certainly not getting any international stories of worth in that excuse for an update - ceefax or bbc online would probably be a far better option.

Disagree entirely. Don't tar everyone with the same brush. I like change. But I like change in the right direction. One of the BBC primary goals is to provide unbiased, balanced reporting of news so that people can form their own opinions. The update last night was not balanced and NK offered her opinion. That's why it was patronising and dumbed down. It was made to appeal to idiots.

Please could you back up your point about people being turned off by news, as I've never heard about this before. If it is a fact, then these people being turned off by news obviously have no strong desire to find out what's happening in the world and the BBC shouldn't be pandering to them. Making news personal and emotional is barely journalism to me. Anyone can do it that way.

It was beyond parody, "Watchdog is next but first lets see what's going on"

They don't even start Radio 1 Newsbeat as casually as that

I think there will be a few changes tonight...

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Would you expand on your point that the update was biased and not balanced?

News readers are human too, what else would you have wanted NK to say.. "Good news, we can keep the story running as the three year old has not been found.. "

- "Still no news I'm afraid..." does not make the report biased and unbalanced.

You are confusing patronising and dumbed down with friendly and relaxed. It's different that's all.