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(May 2007)

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timgraham
Mancunian posted:

Do you think that always has to be the case? Is there any way of reversing this trend? Is there any way to be found of giving the lowest common denominator sector of the audience a 'leg up' into better news coverage?

It worries me that people will watch these summaries and think: Ooh, some filmstar was on a red carpet for a film premiere, there was a fire/bit of disaster/some death somewhere, and some cute tiger cubs were abandoned and then adopted by a dog. And that's what they think the days news amounts to.
FWIW I think it's better these 'lowest-common-denominators' are watching some sort of news (from the BBC no less) than seeing nothing at all. I wouldn't be concerned at all about people being dumbed down so to speak, AFAIK BBC News is the most watched service in the UK and it's hardly a low-quality product.

It's when people are watching steaming piles of turd (pardon the French) like our Australian 'current affairs' programs (weight loss, celeb gossip, shonky builders and welfare cheats 'rorting' the system) get ratings in excess of 1 million - that's a lot here - that you should really be worried.

What I'm trying to say is that even though I've only seen on of these updates, you've got a long way until you've really hit rock bottom.
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Westy2
Anyone reckon NK has 'out grown' BBC News, due to her LE commitments, or should she do 'daytime' stuff instead, like Fi with 'Call My Bluff' or Dermot with 'Eggheads', where the 'supposed' clash of styles wouldn't be so noticeable?
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Mancunian
Sorry, the formatting's gone wonky:


Calum141 said:

"...I also appreciate that for yourself she is not really the 'average' newsreader and someone you probally look upto is Moira Stuart. ..."

Again, why this obsession with assuming my motivations, assuming who I look up to?

I previously gave examples of women journalists I admire, but if you want me to add more, here goes.

I appreciate the differences between the old-fashioned style newsreaders and journalists who happen to read the news, who bring their journalism skills to the task.

With the advent of 24 hour news channels and the potential nowadays to cut into regular programming with breaking news, I'm afraid I think the day of the newsreader has gone. Although I'm fairly certain that Moira Stuart is a sharp cookie and has picked up many journalistic skills over the years.

I do think it's a great shame she was let go. She is very authoritative. She's also a very attractive woman without being a 'glamour girl'. (Again, if my criticisms were motivated by a woman's attractiveness, then I theoretically shouldn't like Moira Stuart, but I do, because I'm not motivated by jealousy) I do think that age-ism had something to do with it. I hope it isn't the last we've seen of her on our screens.

However, you're wrong. She isn't someone I particularly look up to. Yes, she's good at what she does, but she's lacking that certain je ne sais quoi.

A news presenter I do look up to and admire is Mishal Hussein.

Incidentally, all those who reckon I have some kind of jealousy motivated sour grapes thing going on, I actually think that Mishal Hussein is incredibly beautiful. If I was so shallow as to dislike a person for being attractive, then I really, really wouldn't like Mishal Hussein. But I do like her. So it's not like I'm complaining about a person because they're attractive.

But that's not why I rate her. Of course, it helps if the screen talent is attractive but what appeals is that Mishal Hussein comes across as very switched on. She's genuinely smart. She's very, very good at what she does. But she's quite understated about it. Not at all vulgar.

Now *she's* the kind of person who I do look up to and admire in terms of news presenters.
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Mancunian
timgraham posted:
FWIW I think it's better these 'lowest-common-denominators' are watching some sort of news (from the BBC no less) than seeing nothing at all. I wouldn't be concerned at all about people being dumbed down so to speak, AFAIK BBC News is the most watched service in the UK and it's hardly a low-quality product.

It's when people are watching steaming piles of turd (pardon the French) like our Australian 'current affairs' programs (weight loss, celeb gossip, shonky builders and welfare cheats 'rorting' the system) get ratings in excess of 1 million - that's a lot here - that you should really be worried.

What I'm trying to say is that even though I've only seen on of these updates, you've got a long way until you've really hit rock bottom.
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