GS
I have no Idea what you mean?? would you mind explaining a bit more
A rostrum is a piece of staging, a platform, upon which the set or talent is elevated off the floor - like the "baking tray" the desks sit upon in the national news programme.
Noggin refers to disabled access, such as a temporary or permanent ramp.
Gavin Scott
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SWEDISH posted:
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(They REALLY need a rostrum - if DDA issues have prevented them having one then they also need one with a ramp - fixed or optional...)
I have no Idea what you mean?? would you mind explaining a bit more
A rostrum is a piece of staging, a platform, upon which the set or talent is elevated off the floor - like the "baking tray" the desks sit upon in the national news programme.
Noggin refers to disabled access, such as a temporary or permanent ramp.
PE
Pete
Founding member
tsk gavin, got their first.
the reason for suggesting the rostrum however is that it will firstly help break up the studio floor which looks terrible (not least due to their choice of gloss paint) but will help raise the presenters both against the backdrop and for general shots.
the reason for suggesting the rostrum however is that it will firstly help break up the studio floor which looks terrible (not least due to their choice of gloss paint) but will help raise the presenters both against the backdrop and for general shots.
NG
noggin
Founding member
Yep - the small desk looks lost just sitting on its own on the expanse of black shiny floor.
If the desk and presenter chairs were raised onto a rostrum then it would provide a bit more impact to the desk, and thus the presenters, rather than them looking a bit lost on the wideshot.
If a rostrum isn't possible, then a change in flooring around the desk would help I guess.
If you have a shiny floor - which there is nothing wrong with (the reflections you get can look very nice) - you really must have a FLAT shiny floor. The NWT floor looks very rippled to me - and that isn't a good look...
If the desk and presenter chairs were raised onto a rostrum then it would provide a bit more impact to the desk, and thus the presenters, rather than them looking a bit lost on the wideshot.
If a rostrum isn't possible, then a change in flooring around the desk would help I guess.
If you have a shiny floor - which there is nothing wrong with (the reflections you get can look very nice) - you really must have a FLAT shiny floor. The NWT floor looks very rippled to me - and that isn't a good look...
DE
Indeed. When Points West relaunched in 2004 using BBC Choice's old News set, they initially painted their elderly studio floor gloss black. Unfortunately it looked so bad that the whole lot was eventually replaced. It's now a wood-look painted floor AIUI.
Putting presenters on a rostrum also improves down-the-camera eye-lines especially when the cameras have robotic heads. I'm not sure if Manchester use robotic heads, but all the network studios have them AFAIK and the rostrums certainly allow the cameras to get a better shot.
Putting presenters on a rostrum also improves down-the-camera eye-lines especially when the cameras have robotic heads. I'm not sure if Manchester use robotic heads, but all the network studios have them AFAIK and the rostrums certainly allow the cameras to get a better shot.
PC
It's not as bad as it was originally, but it could still have less gloss to it.
Ben posted:
Didn't they already repaint the floor from gloss to matt soon after the original relaunch as it looked so bad?
It's not as bad as it was originally, but it could still have less gloss to it.
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ashley b
Founding member
Indeed, the original floor was far to glossy.
http://www.thisisfive.co.uk/presbits/nwt/nwtlunch08.jpg
They do need something to break all that floor up though. They have added a carpet over by the sofas now though which wasn't there originally.
http://www.thisisfive.co.uk/presbits/nwt/nwt10.jpg
http://www.thisisfive.co.uk/presbits/nwt/nwtlunch08.jpg
They do need something to break all that floor up though. They have added a carpet over by the sofas now though which wasn't there originally.
http://www.thisisfive.co.uk/presbits/nwt/nwt10.jpg
CH
That looks so much bigger than when it's on North West Tonight. Is there no way of moving the cameras back a bit so it doesn't look so cramped?
That will be a zoom then? If the Performance Space is smaller than their main studio, then it stands to reason that it will appear a bit smaller on screen? Unless you have some superior knowledge of physics that I don't?
If you actually read my post and look at the actual picture before jumping in to have a go at me, you'll notice I was pointing out that the webcam shows the performance space to look bigger than what it did on NWT. I wasn't talking about the Manchester studio...
Back to the desk, I also agree it does appear to be in the middle of nowhere. Even a return of the red carpet they had around the desk in the 2004 look would be better (so long as they used the same for the sofa area too).
markwigin posted:
chris posted:
aconnell posted:
Webcam of the Performance Space here: Click
That looks so much bigger than when it's on North West Tonight. Is there no way of moving the cameras back a bit so it doesn't look so cramped?
That will be a zoom then? If the Performance Space is smaller than their main studio, then it stands to reason that it will appear a bit smaller on screen? Unless you have some superior knowledge of physics that I don't?
If you actually read my post and look at the actual picture before jumping in to have a go at me, you'll notice I was pointing out that the webcam shows the performance space to look bigger than what it did on NWT. I wasn't talking about the Manchester studio...
Back to the desk, I also agree it does appear to be in the middle of nowhere. Even a return of the red carpet they had around the desk in the 2004 look would be better (so long as they used the same for the sofa area too).
NG
Yep - though it wasn' BBC Choice's old news set - that was ditched when BBC Three launched ISTR.
The Points West set was the original BBC Three News (used for the 15 minute The News Show and Seven O'Clock News on BBC Three). When Liquid News was axed the Seven O'Clock News on BBC Three got a new set - and doubled to 30 minutes. It was at that time that Bristol got the old BBC Three News set (including the projector screen)
The BBC Three News set had a shiny black floor - but it wasn't painted it was covered in "martac" - which is like sticky backed plastic. This gives a very uniform glossy look - but damages quite easily and needs to be replaced quite regularly.
Putting presenters on a rostrum also improves down-the-camera eye-lines especially when the cameras have robotic heads. I'm not sure if Manchester use robotic heads, but all the network studios have them AFAIK and the rostrums certainly allow the cameras to get a better shot.
Yep - the original Beige/Red BBC National News set didn't have a rostrum (just carpet) and the presenters were quite low, so with remote heads (which raise the camera by quite a lot) the eyelines were a bit steep (as the cameras couldn't go low enough)
BTW - AIUI no BBC Region has ever used robotic cameras, only ever remote cameras. BBC News used Robots in N2 - but they didn't keep them when they moved down - and are now remotes only.
(Robots are peds that move around, remotes are just pan/tilt/zoom and optionally elevate, but need to be manually re-positioned. Much safer - and as a result much cheaper)
noggin
Founding member
deejay posted:
Indeed. When Points West relaunched in 2004 using BBC Choice's old News set, they initially painted their elderly studio floor gloss black. Unfortunately it looked so bad that the whole lot was eventually replaced. It's now a wood-look painted floor AIUI.
Yep - though it wasn' BBC Choice's old news set - that was ditched when BBC Three launched ISTR.
The Points West set was the original BBC Three News (used for the 15 minute The News Show and Seven O'Clock News on BBC Three). When Liquid News was axed the Seven O'Clock News on BBC Three got a new set - and doubled to 30 minutes. It was at that time that Bristol got the old BBC Three News set (including the projector screen)
The BBC Three News set had a shiny black floor - but it wasn't painted it was covered in "martac" - which is like sticky backed plastic. This gives a very uniform glossy look - but damages quite easily and needs to be replaced quite regularly.
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Putting presenters on a rostrum also improves down-the-camera eye-lines especially when the cameras have robotic heads. I'm not sure if Manchester use robotic heads, but all the network studios have them AFAIK and the rostrums certainly allow the cameras to get a better shot.
Yep - the original Beige/Red BBC National News set didn't have a rostrum (just carpet) and the presenters were quite low, so with remote heads (which raise the camera by quite a lot) the eyelines were a bit steep (as the cameras couldn't go low enough)
BTW - AIUI no BBC Region has ever used robotic cameras, only ever remote cameras. BBC News used Robots in N2 - but they didn't keep them when they moved down - and are now remotes only.
(Robots are peds that move around, remotes are just pan/tilt/zoom and optionally elevate, but need to be manually re-positioned. Much safer - and as a result much cheaper)