BBC North West Tonight

I can name several examples in the past few weeks BBC reporters who work for other regions, the network or national/World news have been used to report on NWT - correctly so.

Ch M don't do this 'cause they only cover Gtr Manchester....

what am I not to worry about?????

So the BBC using a reporter from another region/national/world to report on a story about someone from Manchester etc doesn't count as having a call on a massive amount of resources that Channel M don't have?

And don't worry - yeah don't worry because you clearly don't have a clue!

Just reading through this it appears that you appear to be very bitting against the BBC output and very much in favour of Chanel M. Surely reasoned discussion would accept good and bad points of both sides (as qpsk has done) rather than simply telling someone with whom you are having a disagreement to "grow up"??

You mention you are entitle (d) to comment on NWT, Granada Reports and Channel M - and that makes you a strong contributor to this forum as those of us who do not have such insider knowledge can gain a valuable insight. From my perspective I'd rather not hear grudges aired, but hear sound discussion. Given that in order to be entitled to comment on the three you must be some kind of freelance (you mention you work on regional news) , would you be able to give the forum some sense of the differences in how the three programmes are made and where the relative strengths and weaknesses of each are?

Fact, NWT has a 30% audience share (Up 3%)
Fact, Granada has an 18% share a 1% drop on last time

Whilst you don't like what is on NWT, a lot do.
Whilst you and I both agree that a lot of stories, shot by journos, look rubbish, a lot don't seem to mind

I get the impression you know a little about what goes on. A little knowlage can be a dangerous thing.. I'm not going to get into a slanging match, thats pointless.
I know a bit more about this than you, lets leave it at that.

Fact - The slanging match wasn't started by me
Fact - Those ratings stats aren't accurate
Fact - I'm happy with what I know - both the accuracy and content.
Fiction - The BBC have less resources than Channel M
Fiction - Most journos don't mind using crap-cam. More like they want to keep their jobs rather than rock the boat.

But I'll air my views on regional news good or bad as that's what this Forum is about.
I'll also ensure that staements are backed up.

oh, do shut up, you nagging tart. If you really did work in television news then find QSPR or whatever, and meet up in Mancs for a pint, eh?

Fact - The slanging match wasn't started by me
Fact - Those ratings stats aren't accurate
Fact - I'm happy with what I know - both the accuracy and content.
Fiction - The BBC have less resources than Channel M
Fiction - Most journos don't mind using crap-cam. More like they want to keep their jobs rather than rock the boat.

But I'll air my views on regional news good or bad as that's what this Forum is about.
I'll also ensure that staements are backed up.

you're making a fool of yourself now...

The rating stats are bang on accurate..

I never said the BBC have less resources than Ch M. Obviously an organisation like the BBC has a lot of people to call on.. what I ment was I suspect, and here I admit I don't know exactly, but I suspect that Ch M's budget is similer to NWT, and they cover a much smaller patch...

I also never said journos like using PD150s' I said the results were laughable for such a large organisation like the BBC however it's not going away.

"I'll also ensure that staements are backed up."

I've seen nothing to back up any of the statements you've made

... I forgot to say, "keep the arguments off this focking forum.".

Can we just calm things down in here, chaps? By all means discuss the differences between the regional news programmes in the North West, but please do so in an appropriate manner -- not a slanging match.

P.S My dads bigger that yours...............

I'll post this with the hope that I won't then face criticism.
Disappointing tonight that the lead story failed at all to transmit.
But at least there was a basic news prog there doing most of the stories you would expect to be covered tonight - without any of the manufactured rubbish we've been subjected to recently.
In fact apart from the lead (GR had their own Hurricane story) and a crime story ITV did - BBC NWT and GR covered very similar ground tonight.
Chorlton murder, Beauty contest row, Blackpool lights and Black Pudding ice cream.
Is the BBC moving to a GR agenda or vice-versa!

Having watched closely recently some good things and some bad on NWT - when it comes to items shot by journalists.
But the item by Colin (something or other) about squirrels was clearly shot by himself and the results were terrible.
One interview looked like it was strobing.
Another was too red.
The shots were the wrong colour.
Surely there is a quality control at the BBC if nowhere else that if an item is shot by a journalist and the results are sub-standard it shouldn't make air.
Instead the item was broadcast from breakfast till NWT!
I could understand that sub standard work on Granada or Channel M but not at the BBC.