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North West Tonight and Granada Reports row over seige

THE north west's two rival TV news programmes are at loggerheads over payment for exclusive footage of the tragic Lancashire seige.

Granada Reports tracked down and paid an amateur cameraman for his video recording of the dramatic events at Hardman Avenue, Rawtenstall. However, a clip was later also seen on BBC, with the Granada Reports logo blocked out of the corner and a credit given to ITV pictures.

A Granada source tells me: "BBC North West News was so humiliated by the Granada Reports coverage of the story that they felt the need to lift it without even asking us first.

"Considering the resources the licence payer pays for the BBC, you'd think that editorially and ethically they would have higher standards that that."

However, the BBC claim they were within their rights to show the footage. A spokesperson responds: "The BBC were allowed to use a short clip from this amateur video broadcast by ITV/Granada under the exception of fair dealing for the purpose of reporting current events. Given that ITV and Granada had already broadcast the footage on national news bulletins the previous night, it was within fair dealing for the BBC to tape the footage off air from ITV News at 6pm and show no more than 30 secs on local news only.

"There was a credit acknowledging both copyright works used - the video footage and the broadcast."
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tv_mad10
tvnewsjunkie posted:
tv addict posted:
Anybody see the Manchester Evening News on Thursday?
The paper claims the BBC and Granada have fallen out over the pictures of the Rawtenstall siege?


don't suppose its online anywhere?.. got a link?


Here's the article

http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/men_thu07_07_05-itvbbc.jpg
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tv addict
tvnewsjunkie posted:
I know they consulted heavily with lawyers before doing it but apparently the editor of granada was not happy!!.. as you said.. missed pictures?.. get over it!.. its probably the bonus off going on air 30mins later.. if you've missed anything you can tape it off your rival!!!!


I'm not surprised the Editor wasn't happy.
That's very poor of the BBC - their newsteam should be shame-faced about it.
I thought I would compare both News programmes on Friday and again the BBC were beaten.
Both led on he tragic story of th murdered girl but Granada had better reaction.
Then Granada had an exclusive about a woman from Lancashire who was on the bombed bus in London who is now missing. (I saw a few papers used the pictures and quotes the next day).
They followed that up with a story about how the region was reacting at mosques and Town Halls and then an interview with Colin Parry.
The BBC didn't even mention the story about the woman!
I'm surprised they didn't copy that off Granada and put Pictures from ITV too!!!!!
They may as well do that on all the stories they get beaten on.
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Kaplinsky
Looks like Ranvir Singh has taken over the weekend anchor position, replacing Tina Bangs.

Does anyone know why Tina's gone?

I quite like Ranvir. Shes very friendly but where has she suddenly come from? Did she work on GMR does anybody know?
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tvnewsjunkie
Ranvir used to (still does now and again) present drivetime on GMR.. my sources tell me they want a producer/presenter on weekends as well as at breakfast and the late bulletin.. Tina doesn't produce so its bye bye...
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tv addict
tvnewsjunkie posted:
Ranvir used to (still does now and again) present drivetime on GMR.. my sources tell me they want a producer/presenter on weekends as well as at breakfast and the late bulletin.. Tina doesn't produce so its bye bye...


Sounds like another excuse to make more cutbacks by reducing to a producer/presenter.
Just watched Ranvir tonight. She is good. But the bulletin was poor in terms of news content.
A brief read on the murdered girl and no mention of the people from the NW feard missing in the London bomb.
Then just a re hash of the Politics Show.
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its me
I seem to remember a few years back when Martin Henfield moved to weekends, the main reason was because they need a producer/presenter.

Did Tina take-over from Martin or was there someone in between?
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Kaplinsky
Yeah, Tina replaced Martin Henfield.

She must feel really bad about that. Couldnt they train her to become a producer? By producer do you mean someone who actually produces the bulletin with imput into the bulletin and future bulletins? Sorry if I sound a bit daft lol Embarassed
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tvnewsjunkie
yep.. She'll basically put all the stories in the bulletin together.. write it.. and then read it on the telly..(I'm sure theres probably more to it than that!!..)
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Kaplinsky
I take it thats why Nigel Jay may of gone then ...
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tv addict
I see the meaningless Garden competition is back and the desperate attempt to fill with the e-mail appeal.
Get back to reporting real news not filling with rubbish
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Kaplinsky
Did you see the report on hula-hoops as well. Oh dear ... Embarassed

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