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DTV Meridian (South) South Today
Jonwo posted:
I wonder if we might see this replace green screen studios in the next few years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufp8weYYDE8


I think that technique only works for programmes with lots of post-production, I'm not sure it'd work well live.

I'd quite like to see more of a mixture of real and VR/AR. The current ITV News set would look really good if just the windows were VR and the actual body of the set was physical.
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itsrobert Founding member Granada North West Today
I'm positive this has been answered before but I can't find it anywhere so will ask. Which studio did BBC World house during the virtual era?

Or better still, does anyone know what came from what studios when N1, N2 and N3 were in use? Thanks

These photos might be of interest. Taken by a friend of mine when BBC WSTV first moved into N1 in 1993. This studio was used by BBC World until the move to N9 in 1998. The small desk was used for WBR.

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Hatton Cross Central (West) Midlands Today
DTV posted:



Also I've been able to pull some screencaps from library footage of the old BBC newsroom and the newsroom set.

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So, if that old BBC news studio newsroom set was redundant by then - and from these screenshots seems to have been repurposed into extra office desk space - why are there ped cameras with autocue still powered up?
Was that area used to prepare and rehearse for the main bulitins, or used by day editors to talk to the regions and the cameras were used for the daily conference?
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DT
DTV Meridian (South) South Today
Great photos - interesting that the N1 set originally had the N2-style panel system for the backdrop. By the time they relaunched as BBC World in 1995, they had replaced it with a single, curved screen.

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DTV Meridian (South) South Today
So, if that old BBC news studio newsroom set was redundant by then - and from these screenshots seems to have been repurposed into extra office desk space - why are there ped cameras with autocue still powered up?
Was that area used to prepare and rehearse for the main bulitins, or used by day editors to talk to the regions and the cameras were used for the daily conference?


That set was still in use until April 1993 - presumably they used it as some kind of production area for the daytime summaries (which didn't use a wide shot) and then cleared the computers away for the Nine O'Clock News.
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itsrobert Founding member Granada North West Today
DTV posted:
So, if that old BBC news studio newsroom set was redundant by then - and from these screenshots seems to have been repurposed into extra office desk space - why are there ped cameras with autocue still powered up?
Was that area used to prepare and rehearse for the main bulitins, or used by day editors to talk to the regions and the cameras were used for the daily conference?


That set was still in use until April 1993 - presumably they used it as some kind of production area for the daytime summaries (which didn't use a wide shot) and then cleared the computers away for the Nine O'Clock News.

That's consistent with what I'm sure I remember reading or hearing about a while ago. I think the summary producers used to sit alongside the newsreader.
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JO
Jon Central (West) Midlands Today
DTV posted:
Jonwo posted:
I wonder if we might see this replace green screen studios in the next few years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufp8weYYDE8


I think that technique only works for programmes with lots of post-production, I'm not sure it'd work well live.

Surely you can create a fake a news studio without needing loads of post production. In fact surely there are already sets that virtually are all LED screens?
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Alfie Mulcahy (previously AlfieMulcahy) Meridian (South East) South East Today
Jonwo posted:
I wonder if we might see this replace green screen studios in the next few years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufp8weYYDE8


I don't reakon we will. Because green screen will remain as a much cheaper option than HD wraparound screens.

With high profile films it kind of makes sense. So they can point to specific things (eg. Mountains, an incoming ship etc). Wheras with a news broadcast most of it is cosmetic and doesn't need to be interacted with.

Installing expensive screens that wouldn't noticeably improve the quality of the programme would undoubtedly be seen as a waste of money. Especially when a piece of green cloth or boarding could to almost the same thing
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JO
Jon Central (West) Midlands Today
Jonwo posted:
I wonder if we might see this replace green screen studios in the next few years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufp8weYYDE8


I don't reakon we will. Because green screen will remain as a much cheaper option than HD wraparound screens.

With high profile films it kind of makes sense. So they can point to specific things (eg. Mountains, an incoming ship etc). Wheras with a news broadcast most of it is cosmetic and doesn't need to be interacted with.

Installing expensive screens that wouldn't noticeably improve the quality of the programme would undoubtedly be seen as a waste of money. Especially when a piece of green cloth or boarding could to almost the same thing

It’s not the green cloth that does the work in the ITV studio though! It’s the infrastructure broadcasters aren’t adverse to spending money on LED screens and adapting this technology will likely get cheaper and better over time.
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dosxuk Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I'd be fairly confident in saying there's a lot more news studios with LED screens than there is fully virtualized green screen ones.

Remember this exact thing was done for the Scottish referendum result show. Vine's normal green screen stuff was done on a LED screen which had real time parallax / 3D effects rendered based on the location of the camera. Clever layering also meant the graphic elements could leave the screen.

In the film world similar stuff was done for Gravity, with loads of the space stuff being shot within an LED sphere, primarily for the reflections / ambient light effects.
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Markyboy81 Central Reporting Scotland
Does anyone know if a green screen was used on the One and Nine Oclock News for when the presenter would speak to a guest or correspondent on location as they would always turn to their right and from memory a panel would appear?
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MMcG198 UTV Newsline
DTV posted:
That set was still in use until April 1993 - presumably they used it as some kind of production area for the daytime summaries (which didn't use a wide shot) and then cleared the computers away for the Nine O'Clock News.


That's right. The studio set was often used to assist with production.

One rare occasion where an element of this was seen on air - during a BBC strike in the late-1980s:

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