BBC News strike

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Dog 23 May 2005 5:08pm

GaryC posted:

basically: low income families, pensioners and single parents are paying for the likes of Kirsty Warks BBC4 Culture shows on a ratio of 13:1

What if someone in a low income family, a pensioner or a single parent likes the BBC 4 couture shows?

The same argument could be made that people like Michael Winner is paying for 1Xtra, or people without kids are paying for the childrens channels, etc.

The wider tax argument can even go as far as that I pay for students to got uni, tho I never benefited from it, or that I pay �1000 a year in council tax, though the area I live in never has its bins emptied on time.

AS

Aston 23 May 2005 5:14pm

GaryC posted:

- the BBC has a higher 'head count' (yes, including managers) than any other state broadcaster in the world.
- many of the 000's of jobs are in back office functions
- The bbc had more HR staff than ANY private sector UK company
- The 'cost per hour' of BBC programming (incl ALL overheads) is 3 times the European state broadcaster average. If you strip out high profile production talent contracts (actor/writer/director) it is above that of all the major US networks.

You compare the BBC to other "state" broadcasters, but you fail to say that their remits are drasticly different to that of the BBC. The Beeb is pretty unique amounst national broadcasters (to call the BBC a "state" broadcaster suggests it is controlled by the government, when it is not), "public service" boradcaster would actually be a more accurate description.

The high cost of programmes you talk about is skewed by drama and entertainment programmes, which most other state broadcasters do not have a commitment to produce. This is the reason their programme making costs are significantly lower...

MI

mizzb 23 May 2005 5:15pm

Just checked my sky epg and its giving conflicting infomation , some regions have local news at 6.30 others are showing ''My Family ".

I 'll be very surprised if theres any local news tonight.

tvmercia posted:

as far as i am aware the 6.30ish midlands today update is still going ahead

DE

dejay03104 23 May 2005 5:15pm

i wonder if we will see nnc 1 , news 24 and world all together at 6pm?

MA

Magoo 23 May 2005 5:16pm

dejay03104 posted:

i wonder if we will see nnc 1 , news 24 and world all together at 6pm?

At One O'Clock, BBC One and News 24 were simulcast, but World was showing an earlier recording.

DA

Dan Founding member 23 May 2005 5:20pm

mizzb posted:

I 'll be very surprised if theres any local news tonight.

Last I heard there was due to be a 5 minute bulletin at 6:25pm, and 2 minutes at 10:25pm, but I don't know whether that's changed during the day.

WI

william Founding member 23 May 2005 5:21pm

mizzb posted:

Just checked my sky epg and its giving conflicting infomation , some regions have local news at 6.30 others are showing ''My Family ".

I 'll be very surprised if theres any local news tonight.

tvmercia posted:

as far as i am aware the 6.30ish midlands today update is still going ahead

I thought the plan was for a 5 minute bulletin? (this was what someone said last night, haven't heard anything since).

JV

James Vertigan Founding member 23 May 2005 5:27pm

Another bit of news from the South West (via Radio Devon), the legend thast is Craig Rich is in for David Braine providing weather forecasts tonight in the South West

Whether (sorry!) this is due to the strikes or not I don't know, but as was said earlier BBC Weather people are Met Office employees and not BBC employees.

SP

Sput 23 May 2005 5:28pm

Awww well it's good to see we have Dan Corbett on World (and News 24 presumably) at the moment!

GE

thegeek Founding member 23 May 2005 5:34pm

Steven Cole's just linked into.. Click Online!

Meanwhile, there's some fairly serious breaking news happening - a school bus with 40 children on it has overturned in Co. Meath, several people killed. It did get a brief mention from the wires, but I guess we won't hear anything till 6 o'clock now.
Do the BBC have any kind of relationship with RTE to get a report from?

M

M@ Founding member 23 May 2005 5:35pm

Noticably poor service since 1700. Although clearly doing his best, Cole is fluffing lines, refering to the service as News 24 instead of BBC News and astons and the tower are constantly disapeering and reappearing. Some breaking news came through at around 1725 and it was quite excruitiating to watch Stephen deliver it.

What's happening at the end of the bullitens? When is BBC World opting out and how?

RU

Ruski 23 May 2005 5:41pm

Dan posted:

mizzb posted:

I 'll be very surprised if theres any local news tonight.

Last I heard there was due to be a 5 minute bulletin at 6:25pm, and 2 minutes at 10:25pm, but I don't know whether that's changed during the day.

I think Dan has inside information, as he is correct. Again

(May 2005)