ST
Yes I think that's very likely.
thegeek posted:
My bet's on her being replaced at 6 by Akhtar..
MA
Good point- and something we see with strikes time and time again (and yet the unions never seem to learn).
The firefighters were perhaps the biggest cock-up since the miners took on Thatcher.
Ford employees at Dagenham also made fools of themselves by striking in support of employees in the north of England- the following year Ford bosses cut jobs at Dagenham ahead of European plants that didn't "strike in sympathy".
The same will happen to most of the BBC employees (i.e. anyone who isn't a high profile presenter) who have strike today.....it'll be subtle but I expect they'll be passed off for promotion in the next few years.
It's common sense really- striking has never worked.
In my experience the reverse often happens. Those who break the strike are seen as week willed and pliable by management and tend to get shunted into the jobs no one wants to do.
The strikers usually get treated well as management have a big guilt chip for coming in
Marcus
Founding member
Dunedin posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
Ironic isn't it - all the strikers are showing is the BBC can still get a pretty decent service out with half their usual staff services.
Good point- and something we see with strikes time and time again (and yet the unions never seem to learn).
The firefighters were perhaps the biggest cock-up since the miners took on Thatcher.
Ford employees at Dagenham also made fools of themselves by striking in support of employees in the north of England- the following year Ford bosses cut jobs at Dagenham ahead of European plants that didn't "strike in sympathy".
The same will happen to most of the BBC employees (i.e. anyone who isn't a high profile presenter) who have strike today.....it'll be subtle but I expect they'll be passed off for promotion in the next few years.
It's common sense really- striking has never worked.
In my experience the reverse often happens. Those who break the strike are seen as week willed and pliable by management and tend to get shunted into the jobs no one wants to do.
The strikers usually get treated well as management have a big guilt chip for coming in
DU
Incredible- the government's reviewing of the function of the BBC has led to much of the needed job cuts....Brown should be supporting Thompson's proposals rather than apparently undermining him.
juice posted:
Gordon Brown has given his support to the Strikers;
"Gordon Brown spoke with BBC protesters outside the Millbank buildings when he turned up to give an interview to ITN today.
Before going into the building Mr Brown gave his assurances that he would not cross the picket line.
When Gordon Brown left the building thirty minutes later he further lifted the spirits of the protesters by telling them: "We are not doing any BBC today".
Source: NUJ website
"Gordon Brown spoke with BBC protesters outside the Millbank buildings when he turned up to give an interview to ITN today.
Before going into the building Mr Brown gave his assurances that he would not cross the picket line.
When Gordon Brown left the building thirty minutes later he further lifted the spirits of the protesters by telling them: "We are not doing any BBC today".
Source: NUJ website
Incredible- the government's reviewing of the function of the BBC has led to much of the needed job cuts....Brown should be supporting Thompson's proposals rather than apparently undermining him.
ST
Incredible- the government's reviewing of the function of the BBC has led to much of the needed job cuts....Brown should be supporting Thompson's proposals rather than apparently undermining him.
Are you that surprised? Like all Politicians he wants it both ways.
Dunedin posted:
juice posted:
Gordon Brown has given his support to the Strikers;
"Gordon Brown spoke with BBC protesters outside the Millbank buildings when he turned up to give an interview to ITN today.
Before going into the building Mr Brown gave his assurances that he would not cross the picket line.
When Gordon Brown left the building thirty minutes later he further lifted the spirits of the protesters by telling them: "We are not doing any BBC today".
Source: NUJ website
"Gordon Brown spoke with BBC protesters outside the Millbank buildings when he turned up to give an interview to ITN today.
Before going into the building Mr Brown gave his assurances that he would not cross the picket line.
When Gordon Brown left the building thirty minutes later he further lifted the spirits of the protesters by telling them: "We are not doing any BBC today".
Source: NUJ website
Incredible- the government's reviewing of the function of the BBC has led to much of the needed job cuts....Brown should be supporting Thompson's proposals rather than apparently undermining him.
BN
Yes I think that's very likely.
So is Akhtar the old face from BBC World, or is he/she still to appear?
stuartfanning posted:
thegeek posted:
My bet's on her being replaced at 6 by Akhtar..
So is Akhtar the old face from BBC World, or is he/she still to appear?
DU
Why is this devious?
Five Live have a responsibility to try and maintain as good a service as possible- they're managing half hourly live news and sport updates which is pretty good given the circumstances.
I'm surprised they haven't gone down a live phone-in route....staff like Victoria Derbyshire (although scheduled to be away) are freelance and therefore cannot strike with the BBC staff...I'm sure they could hire in freelance phone operators and run an ad-libbed live news/sport phone in with regular updates.
I think if we see future strikes in the next few week the BBC will have a better idea of who will and won't work....the result will be a better and better service with each strike thereby diminishing the impact of the NUJ.
Dog posted:
5 Live are being extremly devious by using sport reporters and producers to read the news.
Sport have an awful lot to lose too, so why are there so many sport people not striking?
Sport have an awful lot to lose too, so why are there so many sport people not striking?
Why is this devious?
Five Live have a responsibility to try and maintain as good a service as possible- they're managing half hourly live news and sport updates which is pretty good given the circumstances.
I'm surprised they haven't gone down a live phone-in route....staff like Victoria Derbyshire (although scheduled to be away) are freelance and therefore cannot strike with the BBC staff...I'm sure they could hire in freelance phone operators and run an ad-libbed live news/sport phone in with regular updates.
I think if we see future strikes in the next few week the BBC will have a better idea of who will and won't work....the result will be a better and better service with each strike thereby diminishing the impact of the NUJ.
DU
Incredible- the government's reviewing of the function of the BBC has led to much of the needed job cuts....Brown should be supporting Thompson's proposals rather than apparently undermining him.
Are you that surprised? Like all Politicians he wants it both ways.
True- although I've just seen the source is from the NUJ so I'd take it with a frankly massive pinch of salt.
stuartfanning posted:
Dunedin posted:
juice posted:
Gordon Brown has given his support to the Strikers;
"Gordon Brown spoke with BBC protesters outside the Millbank buildings when he turned up to give an interview to ITN today.
Before going into the building Mr Brown gave his assurances that he would not cross the picket line.
When Gordon Brown left the building thirty minutes later he further lifted the spirits of the protesters by telling them: "We are not doing any BBC today".
Source: NUJ website
"Gordon Brown spoke with BBC protesters outside the Millbank buildings when he turned up to give an interview to ITN today.
Before going into the building Mr Brown gave his assurances that he would not cross the picket line.
When Gordon Brown left the building thirty minutes later he further lifted the spirits of the protesters by telling them: "We are not doing any BBC today".
Source: NUJ website
Incredible- the government's reviewing of the function of the BBC has led to much of the needed job cuts....Brown should be supporting Thompson's proposals rather than apparently undermining him.
True- although I've just seen the source is from the NUJ so I'd take it with a frankly massive pinch of salt.
JU
Why is this devious?
Five Live have a responsibility to try and maintain as good a service as possible- they're managing half hourly live news and sport updates which is pretty good given the circumstances.
I'm surprised they haven't gone down a live phone-in route....staff like Victoria Derbyshire (although scheduled to be away) are freelance and therefore cannot strike with the BBC staff...I'm sure they could hire in freelance phone operators and run an ad-libbed live news/sport phone in with regular updates.
I think if we see future strikes in the next few week the BBC will have a better idea of who will and won't work....the result will be a better and better service with each strike thereby diminishing the impact of the NUJ.
Unless the unions gain more support over the next week.......
Dunedin posted:
Dog posted:
5 Live are being extremly devious by using sport reporters and producers to read the news.
Sport have an awful lot to lose too, so why are there so many sport people not striking?
Sport have an awful lot to lose too, so why are there so many sport people not striking?
Why is this devious?
Five Live have a responsibility to try and maintain as good a service as possible- they're managing half hourly live news and sport updates which is pretty good given the circumstances.
I'm surprised they haven't gone down a live phone-in route....staff like Victoria Derbyshire (although scheduled to be away) are freelance and therefore cannot strike with the BBC staff...I'm sure they could hire in freelance phone operators and run an ad-libbed live news/sport phone in with regular updates.
I think if we see future strikes in the next few week the BBC will have a better idea of who will and won't work....the result will be a better and better service with each strike thereby diminishing the impact of the NUJ.
Unless the unions gain more support over the next week.......
MA
Yes I think that's very likely.
So is Akhtar the old face from BBC World, or is he/she still to appear?
I don't think that its Akhtar. Has Susan presented on BBC World - if so, it could be her.
Breakfast News posted:
stuartfanning posted:
thegeek posted:
My bet's on her being replaced at 6 by Akhtar..
So is Akhtar the old face from BBC World, or is he/she still to appear?
I don't think that its Akhtar. Has Susan presented on BBC World - if so, it could be her.