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BBC NEWS CUTS

Cuts reactivated - P43 onwards

JF
JF World News West Country (East) Points West
They can have that just axe outside source and give it back to the news channel so it can serve its audiences better.


No that won't happen OS was launched in the UK as part of cost savings in 2015, in the coming climate with more cuts coming it won't be axed. I expect the News Channel will only run 9am-7pm weekdays, Beyond 100 Days 7pm, Outside Source 8pm, The Nine 9pm (from BBC Scottland) would be my idea.


Well IF Victoria Derbyshire's progamme which was introduced because of cost cutting can then be axed 5 years later for the same reason, i'm sure Outside Source will be as well at some point


Well its a BBC World News production, so not the same budgets its commercial funded and is a brand used on TV, Radio and Online. It's highly unlike to be axed as its sold to PBS in America,
MA
Meridian AM Meridian (South) South Today

No that won't happen OS was launched in the UK as part of cost savings in 2015, in the coming climate with more cuts coming it won't be axed. I expect the News Channel will only run 9am-7pm weekdays, Beyond 100 Days 7pm, Outside Source 8pm, The Nine 9pm (from BBC Scottland) would be my idea.


Well IF Victoria Derbyshire's progamme which was introduced because of cost cutting can then be axed 5 years later for the same reason, i'm sure Outside Source will be as well at some point


Well its a BBC World News production, so not the same budgets its commercial funded and is a brand used on TV, Radio and Online. It's highly unlike to be axed as its sold to PBS in America,


Forgive my ignorance, but what does the name 'Outside Source' mean, in terms of a rolling news channel and this programme?
IS
Inspector Sands
Outside Sources are the lines going into a studio. They're usually abbreviated OS, is OS1 is line 1 OS2, line 2 etc
JF
JF World News West Country (East) Points West

Well IF Victoria Derbyshire's progamme which was introduced because of cost cutting can then be axed 5 years later for the same reason, i'm sure Outside Source will be as well at some point


Well its a BBC World News production, so not the same budgets its commercial funded and is a brand used on TV, Radio and Online. It's highly unlike to be axed as its sold to PBS in America,


Forgive my ignorance, but what does the name 'Outside Source' mean, in terms of a rolling news channel and this programme?


Outside Source refers to like all the different feeds coming into the newsroom, like video, audio, images and text. The idea is to be in the heart of the World's Newsroom and bring as new details come in as, bringing the expertise from the 27 languages and viewers
MA
Meridian AM Meridian (South) South Today
OK, thank you.
I wonder how many of the general public know this technical phrase means.
RK
Rkolsen World News

Well IF Victoria Derbyshire's progamme which was introduced because of cost cutting can then be axed 5 years later for the same reason, i'm sure Outside Source will be as well at some point


Well its a BBC World News production, so not the same budgets its commercial funded and is a brand used on TV, Radio and Online. It's highly unlike to be axed as its sold to PBS in America,


Forgive my ignorance, but what does the name 'Outside Source' mean, in terms of a rolling news channel and this programme?

Just for future reference if you wanted to know other similar terms for OS you may hear are REM (remote), FIFO (first in first out), NEMO (not emanating from main office); in the US they may label ENG (for electronic news gathering - specifically the live trucks and helicopter) and SNG or SAT for (satellite news gathering or satellite). If a station uses bonded cellular it may be listed as CNG or an abbreviation of the device manufacturer if they use multiple types.
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DE
deejay Oxford
I’m pretty sure the term Outside Source doesn’t mean a great deal to most viewers but the programme (or at least the original programme) goes to great effort to deconstruct the way normal news bulletins are presented and tries to get back to the original components of stories: reports, live shots, news wires, tweets, primary information sources if you like. That whole ethos of storytelling was the original premise for the programme.
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IT
itsrobert Founding member Granada North West Today
I’m pretty sure the term Outside Source doesn’t mean a great deal to most viewers but the programme (or at least the original programme) goes to great effort to deconstruct the way normal news bulletins are presented and tries to get back to the original components of stories: reports, live shots, news wires, tweets, primary information sources if you like. That whole ethos of storytelling was the original premise for the programme.

You've pretty much described a standard hour on a rolling news channel. Reports, live shots, news wires and tweets. And this is my problem with some of these branded programmes - apart from some gimmickry like big screens, different music and graphics, they're essentially the same as anything else.
MA
Meridian AM Meridian (South) South Today
I’m pretty sure the term Outside Source doesn’t mean a great deal to most viewers but the programme (or at least the original programme) goes to great effort to deconstruct the way normal news bulletins are presented and tries to get back to the original components of stories: reports, live shots, news wires, tweets, primary information sources if you like. That whole ethos of storytelling was the original premise for the programme.

You've pretty much described a standard hour on a rolling news channel. Reports, live shots, news wires and tweets. And this is my problem with some of these branded programmes - apart from some gimmickry like big screens, different music and graphics, they're essentially the same as anything else.


Yes, I think I would prefer to just have the newsreader sitting there reading the autocue to introduce reports.
I don't want to see them fiddling and faffing around pressing screens. I can use my computer or phone and press screens myself to find the information.
CM
cmthwtv West Country (East) Points West
It's basically just someone going through all the stores - like you would on social media, on the app or website - but they control the running order and what we see.
DE
deejay Oxford
But all the same, not running intros and packages is what attracted PBS to take the programme and why the show is more sellable - it’s genuinely different to most ‘built’ bulletins.
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LX
lxflyer UTV Newsline
Outside Source comes originally from the BBC World Service radio programme (now known as BBC OS) which involved Ros Atkins (now Nuala McGovern) presenting the programme from a desk in the middle of the newsroom rather than from a studio.

The idea was that they could then draw on the expertise of the World Service journalists from the newsroom somewhat more easily than in a studio environment.

The TV programme did do that a lot when it was on the balcony, with specialist correspondents and editors being interviewed more than would have happened in the normal bulletin.

And to be fair to Ros Atkins and the Outside Source team, they also did a lot of research of social media and looked behind some of the stories. Look at his twitter feed for the in-depth analysis that they did of the Australian fires not too long ago.

It was slightly more than “fiddling and faffing”.
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