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Cuts reactivated - P43 onwards (January 2020)

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AS
AlexS
all new Phil posted:
Obviously any loss of jobs is sad news for the individuals involved, but it absolutely blows my mind that there are so many staff working for BBC News in the first place that over 500 are being cut.

Some of the comments previously about person X refusing redundancy, person Y working on screen in a capacity that they have negotiated and so will be unwilling to move etc - I’m not sure how many of you have been involved in redundancies but you don’t tend to have much choice. Illness doesn’t make you untouchable either. From my experience it tends to be based on performance and length of service - it has to be judged on consistent measures to avoid accusations of discrimination. Everyone in comparable roles will be subject to it - you can’t just say “right that person, that person and that person can go”. If x number of NC presenters need to be cut for example, all of them will go into consultation.

The unions etc are also not going to be very happy if person X is refused voluntary redundancy but person Y who does essentially the same job is made redundant despite not volunteering.
AN
all new Phil
AlexS posted:
all new Phil posted:
Obviously any loss of jobs is sad news for the individuals involved, but it absolutely blows my mind that there are so many staff working for BBC News in the first place that over 500 are being cut.

Some of the comments previously about person X refusing redundancy, person Y working on screen in a capacity that they have negotiated and so will be unwilling to move etc - I’m not sure how many of you have been involved in redundancies but you don’t tend to have much choice. Illness doesn’t make you untouchable either. From my experience it tends to be based on performance and length of service - it has to be judged on consistent measures to avoid accusations of discrimination. Everyone in comparable roles will be subject to it - you can’t just say “right that person, that person and that person can go”. If x number of NC presenters need to be cut for example, all of them will go into consultation.

The unions etc are also not going to be very happy if person X is refused voluntary redundancy but person Y who does essentially the same job is made redundant despite not volunteering.

Depends. They don’t have to offer / accept voluntary redundancy if it leads to someone going who would have otherwise scored high on the assessment criteria. The company I work for had a round of redundancies a few years back and offered voluntary, and lost a lot of good people. The next time round, voluntary redundancy was not offered.
VA
valley
all new Phil posted:
AlexS posted:
all new Phil posted:
Obviously any loss of jobs is sad news for the individuals involved, but it absolutely blows my mind that there are so many staff working for BBC News in the first place that over 500 are being cut.

Some of the comments previously about person X refusing redundancy, person Y working on screen in a capacity that they have negotiated and so will be unwilling to move etc - I’m not sure how many of you have been involved in redundancies but you don’t tend to have much choice. Illness doesn’t make you untouchable either. From my experience it tends to be based on performance and length of service - it has to be judged on consistent measures to avoid accusations of discrimination. Everyone in comparable roles will be subject to it - you can’t just say “right that person, that person and that person can go”. If x number of NC presenters need to be cut for example, all of them will go into consultation.

The unions etc are also not going to be very happy if person X is refused voluntary redundancy but person Y who does essentially the same job is made redundant despite not volunteering.

Depends. They don’t have to offer / accept voluntary redundancy if it leads to someone going who would have otherwise scored high on the assessment criteria. The company I work for had a round of redundancies a few years back and offered voluntary, and lost a lot of good people. The next time round, voluntary redundancy was not offered.

Yeah, I've seen it happen at another large media organisation. Offered voluntary redundancies on perhaps overly attractive terms, and got over half the department saying "you know what, why not," followed by vigorous backtracking and modification of terms.
CM
cmthwtv
It seems almost certain that Andrew Neil will be presenting a BBC One show in replacement for The Andrew Neil Show.



WA
watchingtv
Andrew Neil can present The One Show, just like Watchdog takes up part of the programme now.
JO
Jon
Andrew Neil was wasted on his new show. It was basically just a evening version of Politics Live randomly flung randomly in the week. The whole format just felt half-arsed.

A weekly version of The Andrew Neil interviews would work well, but I think they’d struggle to get the government ministers.

I wonder if we’ll just get rehashing of This Week format. Which wouldn’t be a bad thing.
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JO
Jonwo
Jon posted:
Andrew Neil was wasted on his new show. It was basically just a evening version of Politics Live randomly flung randomly in the week. The whole format just felt half-arsed.

A weekly version of The Andrew Neil interviews would work well, but I think they’d struggle to get the government ministers.

I wonder if we’ll just get rehashing of This Week format. Which wouldn’t be a bad thing.


It'd struggle ratings wise as well.
CA
Cando
watchingtv posted:
Andrew Neil can present The One Show, just like Watchdog takes up part of the programme now.


He was a regular fill in for Adrian in the early days.
BR
Brekkie
cmthwtv posted:
It seems almost certain that Andrew Neil will be presenting a BBC One show in replacement for The Andrew Neil Show.

If axing it is a cost saving measure though where is the logic in commissioning a replacement? Is it just a bit of a throwaway line to make it look like they're not dumping him completely.

For what it's worth I don't think Andrew Neil is the god of political interviewing some make him out to be.
CA
Cando
Brekkie posted:
cmthwtv posted:
It seems almost certain that Andrew Neil will be presenting a BBC One show in replacement for The Andrew Neil Show.

If axing it is a cost saving measure though where is the logic in commissioning a replacement?


It could be a BBC ONE commission ie not from the BBC News budget.
TR
trevormon
cmthwtv posted:
harshy posted:
So Is it over for Studio B for good?


All that has been said is something about them learning that they don't need as much studio capacity.

Victoria Derbyshire Show won't return. That's the only confirmed programme to no longer use B. So we don't know yet.


No. Newsnight, Marr and World also not using B in the future, so it will likely be sitting empty.
DE
deejay
The BBC has a long standing agreement with the unions that there should be no compulsory redundancies and that voluntary redundancy and redeployment within the corporation is always the first option when looking to reduce the headcount.

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