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BBC NEWS CUTS

Cuts reactivated - P43 onwards (January 2020)

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Brekkie
msim posted:
Panorama? A programme that is a half hour filler most weeks (tomorrow 30 mins on smart motorways) and seems to exist just because of its name and legacy. Would rejigging it as a real investigative journalism series that airs less frequently but with much higher prominence be a saving?

Could solve two problems there by giving some of it's hours to Victoria Derbyshire for the sort of lovely films which don't fit under the Panorama banner.


all new Phil posted:
The most jarring of all is at the weekend when they have to stop everything to include a 5 minute BBC One bulletin.

Longer weekend bulletins on BBC1 could actually be a cost saving considering the content is made for BBC News already. Realistically having a seperate network presenter is the obvious saving to look at, although given recent developments on fair pay a bit of a minefield as someone hosting the Saturday and Sunday bulletins along with time on the news channel will argue they'd deserve the same pay as Huw hosting the Six and Ten in the week.


sjhoward posted:
I wondered if the new expanded approach to BBC News on iPlayer (promoted when the red button services closed) portended the closure of the news channel—but it still feels like a bolder move than the BBC has been making in recent years to me. I don't think anyone would be surprised to see a 'Victoria Derbyshire' strand on the new iPlayer service, though.

I suspect the new and expanded iPlayer content will actually just be the current news content on there - i.e. the last bulletin - and the clips, though increasingly useless, will be dropped from the TV service.

If the news channel did go the iPlayer could be used to offer a pretty decent alternative if they went back to the early days of News Multiscreen and made headline summaries and full reports available, and regional content could be added too.
HA
harshy Founding member
Lovely films lol five years of that thanks to VD, 5 years of wasted licence fee money down the sewers of doom, catering to the BAFTA commitee, politicians and activists most of the British public were at work, or watching Jeremy Vine/This morning...

I am pretty some of us at tv forum weren’t amused when this whole VD nonsense made it to the television set.
CM
cmthwtv
harshy posted:
Lovely films lol five years of that thanks to VD, 5 years of wasted licence fee money down the sewers of doom, catering to the BAFTA commitee, politicians and activists most of the British public were at work, or watching Jeremy Vine/This morning...

I am pretty some of us at tv forum weren’t amused when this whole VD nonsense made it to the television set.


Or maybe you just weren’t the target audience?
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peterrocket Founding member
cmthwtv posted:
harshy posted:
Lovely films lol five years of that thanks to VD, 5 years of wasted licence fee money down the sewers of doom, catering to the BAFTA commitee, politicians and activists most of the British public were at work, or watching Jeremy Vine/This morning...

I am pretty some of us at tv forum weren’t amused when this whole VD nonsense made it to the television set.


Or maybe you just weren’t the target audience?


As has been mentioned many times in this thread and others, the current situation over VD shows just how out of touch TV Forum members are with reality.
HA
harshy Founding member
cmthwtv posted:
harshy posted:
Lovely films lol five years of that thanks to VD, 5 years of wasted licence fee money down the sewers of doom, catering to the BAFTA commitee, politicians and activists most of the British public were at work, or watching Jeremy Vine/This morning...

I am pretty some of us at tv forum weren’t amused when this whole VD nonsense made it to the television set.


Or maybe you just weren’t the target audience?

The target audience wasn’t big enough to justify the lovely stories to be on air for five years
HA
harshy Founding member
peterrocket posted:
cmthwtv posted:
harshy posted:
Lovely films lol five years of that thanks to VD, 5 years of wasted licence fee money down the sewers of doom, catering to the BAFTA commitee, politicians and activists most of the British public were at work, or watching Jeremy Vine/This morning...

I am pretty some of us at tv forum weren’t amused when this whole VD nonsense made it to the television set.


Or maybe you just weren’t the target audience?


As has been mentioned many times in this thread and others, the current situation over VD shows just how out of touch TV Forum members are with reality.

I am very much in reality thanks, the reality is linear television is going down this decade people consume this sort of stuff anytime they want via their flippin iPads etc.

But it took five years for the bbc to realise this when we all knew VD should have never made it to air.
Last edited by harshy on 26 January 2020 3:45pm
LL
London Lite Founding member
The lovely films aren't going anywhere. Fran Unsworth recognises the need to serve the audience left by VD, but not as a linear daily show.
AN
all new Phil
Can people stop saying lovely films Rolling Eyes
HA
harshy Founding member
London Lite posted:
The lovely films aren't going anywhere. Fran Unsworth recognises the need to serve the audience left by VD, but not as a linear daily show.

I’m fine with that bbc needs to cater for all but it should never made it to the news channel in the first place it didn’t fit the remit of a rolling news channel.
PE
peterrocket Founding member
harshy posted:
London Lite posted:
The lovely films aren't going anywhere. Fran Unsworth recognises the need to serve the audience left by VD, but not as a linear daily show.

I’m fine with that bbc needs to cater for all but it should never made it to the news channel in the first place it didn’t fit the remit of a rolling news channel.


Well, that's debatable - depends on your definition of News. No one is forcing you to watch it.

Using that methodology, one could then question whether Sport should be on the News Channel, or even the Film Review, but people don't complain about those.
HA
harshy Founding member
peterrocket posted:
harshy posted:
London Lite posted:
The lovely films aren't going anywhere. Fran Unsworth recognises the need to serve the audience left by VD, but not as a linear daily show.

I’m fine with that bbc needs to cater for all but it should never made it to the news channel in the first place it didn’t fit the remit of a rolling news channel.


Well, that's debatable - depends on your definition of News. No one is forcing you to watch it.

Using that methodology, one could then question whether Sport should be on the News Channel, or even the Film Review, but people don't complain about those.

But no one did hence it got axed anyway but it took 5 years for it to happen, sport should be in the news channel it’s news for most of us who can’t afford the extortionate sports channels, film review is fine it’s only one for 15 mins and was very much part of bbc news channel history in a different guise.
BK
bkman1990
Now I don't watch VD but to replace it with Live with Lucy Hockings from WN is an idea that makes good sense. If a breaking news story happens during the late mornings; it will have a chance to compete with Sky News for legitimate breaking news stories in the UK therefore increasing viewership figures for the NC.

I also think it would be a good case to increase the attractiveness & viability of BBC Regional News bulletins with scrapping all of the SD feeds of BBC One across England & in the nations by making them HD only through the various TV platforms in the UK.

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