Can I, for yet another time, remind people that Sky News, News 24 and World DON'T COME FROM STUDIOS...
They all currently come from newsroom sets... They don't have studios - though News 24 will be moving into one.
BBC News are not going to be buying a second studio out on long term hire from BBC Resources - they are looking to cut costs, not massively increase them... I'm sure if they could stop using their existing bought out studio in the main block of TV Centre they would.
Can I, for yet another time, remind people that Sky News, News 24 and World DON'T COME FROM STUDIOS...
I really don't see why it matters. Both News24 and Sky News come from areas with cameras, studio lighting and a gallery. The presenters deliver the stories; the director cuts the pictures and hey presto we have the news. Why with all the nit picking?! They both have real "newsrooms"- they are similar just News24 is a less "traditional studio" than Sky's.
There is a world of difference. A studio is designed to meet the requirements of broadcast television, sound proofing, a lighting grid and often perfect flooring. A set is then put in this space and wola, tv. Putting a set in any other place means you inherently won't have everything needed or desired for good a production. Be it lack of sound proofing or the inability to light properly.
Do people within telly refer to it as "studio n8" or just n8?
Most people who know what they are talking about don't call it a studio - simply because it isn't one. It is a gallery with a newsroom set - it doesn't have a studio.
If talking to a layperson they might refer to it as a studio - and the presenters on-set may be called "studio presenters" for simplicity.
However it is an area of office space with nothing approaching a lighting grid, flat floor, sound proofing etc.
It also isn't internally regarded as a studio - allowing very different health and safety legislation to apply...
Do people within telly refer to it as "studio n8" or just n8?
Most people who know what they are talking about don't call it a studio - simply because it isn't one. It is a gallery with a newsroom set - it doesn't have a studio.
If talking to a layperson they might refer to it as a studio - and the presenters on-set may be called "studio presenters" for simplicity.
However it is an area of office space with nothing approaching a lighting grid, flat floor, sound proofing etc.
It also isn't internally regarded as a studio - allowing very different health and safety legislation to apply...
And yet, when ITN started producing Five News in 1997, the whole area was called Studio 5, I believe. Yet it contained a newsroom area.
The technology these days, means that you don't need major lighting grids, or a lot of soundproofing. Cameras and prompters are more lightweight than they used to be, and microphone pickup technology means all extraneous noise can be eradicated.
It used to be the rule that you never wore leather with a tie clip microphone, because leather creaks so much. In more recent times, presenters have been seen wearing leather blazers and jackets and no extraneous creaking has been picked up.
How we think about studios in recent years has changed a lot. The "traditional" studio, as exemplified by N6 and TC7, still have their place, but the "new style" studios, as exemplified by N8 at TV Centre, and Studio 1 at Sky News Centre, perhaps show us how News will be done more and more over the years.
Can I, for yet another time, remind people that Sky News, News 24 and World DON'T COME FROM STUDIOS...
Exasperated much?
You could say that...
The use of the words :
Set, studio, gallery and newsroom as if they are roughly the same thing is getting increasingly annoying, and if people using the terms here want to actually have jobs, or be taken seriously by those who do, in the industry - then they should learn the difference.
The set is the furniture (desks, chairs, tables etc.), sometimes the walls and other "flats", as well as other bits of architecture contrived for TV (fake pillars, foreground elements, plasma screens etc.)
The studio is a space designed for TV production - usually containing a flat floor, soundproofed walls (and often airlock doors), a decent lighting grid or truss, wallboxes, quiet air con etc.
The gallery is the control room (or rooms) where the director, vision mixer, sound supervisor, lighting director, vision operator, remote camera operator, technical manager etc. sit along with the output producer, production assistant (and sometimes prompt operator, graphics operators etc.) - though some or all of these may be in separate spaces (in the case of larger "gallery suites") or in areas other than the gallery (graphics can be in separate areas, prompt are often on the studio floor etc.)
The newsroom is where the newsgathering and news production teams are based - usually in office space, with office aircon, office lighting, and often not a particularly telegenic layout.
You can put a set in a newsroom, you can put a set in a studio, you can put a set in a shopping centre or the middle of a car park if you like (I've been there and done that).
Just because a set is in a newsroom doesn't make the newsroom a studio, any more than a car park becomes a studio because it has some cameras, some lighting and a sofa in it...
Do people within telly refer to it as "studio n8" or just n8?
Most people who know what they are talking about don't call it a studio - simply because it isn't one. It is a gallery with a newsroom set - it doesn't have a studio.
If talking to a layperson they might refer to it as a studio - and the presenters on-set may be called "studio presenters" for simplicity.
However it is an area of office space with nothing approaching a lighting grid, flat floor, sound proofing etc.
It also isn't internally regarded as a studio - allowing very different health and safety legislation to apply...
And yet, when ITN started producing Five News in 1997, the whole area was called Studio 5, I believe. Yet it contained a newsroom area.
You can put a newsroom in a studio if you wish.
You can decide to call a newsroom with a set in a "studio" if you wish - to make life easier. Just because you call it a "studio" doesn't mean it is one... (Though accountants like to think that way)
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The technology these days, means that you don't need major lighting grids, or a lot of soundproofing.
Don't know who told you that - but they're pulling a fast one.
For decent lighting you still need your lamps up high (otherwise you get real problems with shallow lighting angles, nasty shadows and spill on set behind presenters)
The same personal mic technology has been in use for many years - they haven't got more directional significantly - and though you can bung in noise reduction and automixing as much as you like - you can't get away from decent sound needing soundproof spaces.
Sure - if you want background ambience of ringing phones and people cheering during football matches - then you can have it.
Technology hasn't improved as much as people think it has.
The laws of physics haven't changed...
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Cameras and prompters are more lightweight than they used to be, and microphone pickup technology means all extraneous noise can be eradicated.
Err - studio cameras are not significantly lighter than they were about 25 years ago.
A triax backed BVP 570 or D30 doesn't weigh significantly less or take up massively less space than an Ikegami 79D or Sony 330AP...
The Thomson 1647s used in the very early 90s, and the 1657s used in the 00s, the LDK100s use in the late 90s and still in use by News 24 and BBC World, and the BVPD30s currenlty in use are roughly the same form factor...
Autocue hoods have shifted from CRTs to LCDs - and are a bit lighter - but have to be roughly the same surface area to provide the same size prompt (in fact the large LCDs are a bit bigger). Also it is now common to mount preview monitors underneath in the volume previously taken up by the CRT.
Bean counters mean that poorer quality peds are now in use - and they are a bit smaller - but this means you can't do decent tracks across a floor. But then non-studio floors are so lumpy you couldn't track over them on-shot anyway.
Don't know where you think the magic "noise cancelling personal mic" has come from. The industry still uses ECM77s - they've been around for donkeys years...
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It used to be the rule that you never wore leather with a tie clip microphone, because leather creaks so much. In more recent times, presenters have been seen wearing leather blazers and jackets and no extraneous creaking has been picked up.
Err - yes it has. I've known more than one presenter to have to change because of it.
Some soft leather is fine. Some creaking stuff isn't.
Next you'll be telling me you can wear a white jacket in a studio with no problems...
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How we think about studios in recent years has changed a lot. The "traditional" studio, as exemplified by N6 and TC7, still have their place, but the "new style" studios, as exemplified by N8 at TV Centre, and Studio 1 at Sky News Centre, perhaps show us how News will be done more and more over the years.
N6 is far from a traditional studio...
Personally - I think the model of the future is (hopefully) BBC Arabic.
Well lit, interesting backdrop, decent sound proofing, intelligently designed operation. Effectively, it is - just like the old Nine O'Clock News studio - a studio with glass walls looking out into a newsroom.
Well, noggin, I agree with all that. No wonder it gets annoying when all four are obviously different things!!
However, i much prefer AJE's newsroom set to BBC Arabic's studio, it looks so much more up to the minuite (if you know what I mean) but not in a cluttered way like Sky's set.