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BBC News Rebrand - This Monday

New look BBC News output from Monday (January 2008)

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NG
noggin Founding member
gregmc posted:
r2ro posted:
Chie posted:
The BBC News studios would look amazing if they were similar to this:

http://www.jagodesign.co.uk/images/large/aljazeera.jpg

(Aljazeera English)


Now that's a studio. However I doubt if the BBC will do anything like it, especially not with the upcoming changes seeing news being sent into a separate studio to the newsroom.


The same designers who worked on sets and newsrooms for Aljazeera also designed BBC News 24/World and N6/TC7, also the floating light box that appears in N6/TC7 also appears in Channel 4 News' set, which was also designed by Simon Jago.


Simon Jago also did the BBC Arabic look I believe.
NE
newsmonkey
noggin posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
This is the way News 24 should be...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRiL3DkHzEo

EDIT: We need the return of colour, glass and metal look and feel, and make use of the newsroom desks for weather, sport, and business.


Oh God - I'd almost managed to blot out that particular set from my memory - but now it is back. Thanks...

It was christened "The Conservatory After A Hurricane" look... Every close up had a line growing out of someone's head - and the newsroom blinds had to be closed all day to stop the background totally bleaching out.


Noggin, you might be able to answer this for me then - I always wondered if it's a redundant track-cam that curves around the edge of the ceiling of the 2nd floor of the newsroom. It stretches from the coat rack end of N8 all the way to the staircase by sport (essentially looking down over what was the hub of newsgathering desks). What was it ever used for? I can't recall seeing such shots on screen...?
BH
Bvsh Hovse
noggin posted:
gregmc posted:
r2ro posted:
Chie posted:
The BBC News studios would look amazing if they were similar to this:

http://www.jagodesign.co.uk/images/large/aljazeera.jpg

(Aljazeera English)


Now that's a studio. However I doubt if the BBC will do anything like it, especially not with the upcoming changes seeing news being sent into a separate studio to the newsroom.


The same designers who worked on sets and newsrooms for Aljazeera also designed BBC News 24/World and N6/TC7, also the floating light box that appears in N6/TC7 also appears in Channel 4 News' set, which was also designed by Simon Jago.


Simon Jago also did the BBC Arabic look I believe.


Funny thing is, having seen the virtual reality version of the main BBC Arabic studio (34D) I am sceptical as to how much of any newsroom I see anywhere now is real.
JO
Joshua
Bvsh Hovse posted:
Funny thing is, having seen the virtual reality version of the main BBC Arabic studio (34D) I am sceptical as to how much of any newsroom I see anywhere now is real.


That really does sound intriguing Bvsh Hovse, I have to say I love the BBC Arabic set, I can see BBC World having something similar. Its interesting that the newswall is actually oppisite the desk, and not behind the desk. From watching the online stream tonight, I noticed that there are two entrances to the set, one which is to the right of the newswall, and one which is behind the desk but over to the right. I also noticed quite a large plasma screen near the desk.

During the Newshour, Rania (I think that is the presenters name) presented from a smaller, circular desk. She conducted an interview from there, and from that shot, the newsroom looked much bigger.

The set reminds me a lot of AlJazeera English's in London, which has the same structure of the BBC Arabic studio, glass looking onto the newsroom, a newswall, and then a interview area.
BH
Bvsh Hovse
It's worth a mention that the virtual reality version of the BBC Arabic set may not have gone out on air yet. I've had a quick flick through the newshour 'watch again' and I couldn't find the shot of the desk though. I know which circular desk you mean, it is located stage right of the main desk.

Sadly the newshour listen again crashes in to the beginning. I'll mention it to future media, since I'm guessing it is missing a good few seconds off of the front.
NG
noggin Founding member
newsmonkey posted:

Noggin, you might be able to answer this for me then - I always wondered if it's a redundant track-cam that curves around the edge of the ceiling of the 2nd floor of the newsroom. It stretches from the coat rack end of N8 all the way to the staircase by sport (essentially looking down over what was the hub of newsgathering desks). What was it ever used for? I can't recall seeing such shots on screen...?


Yes it was a tracking camera installed for News 24. It never worked sufficiently well to be used on-air AIUI - and the company that installed it would have probably gone bust if they'd been forced to make it work.
NG
noggin Founding member
Bvsh Hovse posted:

Funny thing is, having seen the virtual reality version of the main BBC Arabic studio (34D) I am sceptical as to how much of any newsroom I see anywhere now is real.


AIUI the super wideshot used by BBC Arabic isn't virtual reality per se - it is simply a key effect to matte in extra bits of set that aren't really there. This is not VR - it is a simple key effect. (VR implies that the backgrounds are rendered live and track camera movements)

ITV used to do something similar on one of their previous sets - matte-ing in a walk way, and of course the BBC "Virtual Blue" set did something similar - and although described as "Virtual" it didn't use VR techniques (just some clever pre-rendered moves and clever keying and charisma moves timeline locked together)
BH
Bvsh Hovse
noggin posted:

AIUI the super wideshot used by BBC Arabic isn't virtual reality per se


It was introduced to me as a virtual studio shot, but it is just an overlay effect rather than anything more fancy - as I have seen the results when the camera gets nudged.

A proper virtual studio system would be something like the MATRIS system I saw at an R&D open day recently. Infohere for those that are interested.
VV
VividandVisual
Is it nearly spring yet!!!???
ST
Stuart
daniel posted:
Is it nearly spring yet!!!???

Don't bring that one up Daniel. 'Spring' is not a definative event or period. You'll set the Trolls off again quoting astronomical data from the 'ever-reliable' Wiki! Laughing
SA
salfordjohn
sorry to be thick . . . what does AIUI mean Confused
RO
rob Founding member
salfordjohn posted:
sorry to be thick . . . what does AIUI mean Confused


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