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BBC News Rebrand - This Monday

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NG
noggin Founding member
Brekkie posted:
I think it's quite a while since the BBC did voice over announcements - certainly not since 1993 when the virtual era was introduced, and I don't think in the era before that. I associate the announcements more with ITN - with the BBC having the newsreader introduced by the CA over the clock.


The One O'Clock and Six O'Clock news used them until the cut-glass and blue look, and the Nine used them until the slightly Third Reich-ish titles era where they re-introduced the newsroom backdrop.

Certainly the One had them during the "white clock face flyaround" titles, the Six during the "blue files going into a filing cabinet" titles, and the Nine during the "flying fish finger" titles
NG
noggin Founding member
Brekkie posted:
noggin posted:
Though you have to ask WHY do presenters need to walk around ?



You could also ask WHY presenters need to sit down to?


Because it is less distracting - and makes the presentation less important than the content, allowing audiences to concentrate on the content. If a stood-up presentation style aids in explaining or delivernig information - as is sometimes the case on stories that have no real pictures to illustrate them, then it has a place - however to try and bend the story so that it allows for a given presentation style is usually doomed to failure.

I think the "Standing News" (and the "Still to come channel") sequences on the BBC "Broken News2 series should be required viewing for all who work in TV News... (As should "The Day Today"... ) The ridiculous walk at the top of the original "Theatre of News" ITV News - and the hilarious - near Red Arrows like - formation walking when Sky had three anchors were cringingly bad - almost a spoof of news presentation.

It also usually delivers a technically better result, with much higher quality lighting and framing (particularly with remote cameras) and often better sound. With budgets being reduced left right and centre - best to desk-based presentation to a high quality than a poor quality walk-and-talk style.
BR
Brekkie
Well of course it is a mixture of the two that works best - sometimes standing up does aid the presentation of the story, and as you say sometimes it does not.


I think the BBC, ITV and C4 have generally got it about right, though these touch screen things are the most pointless innovation in news since the arrival of Natasha Kaplinsky on the scene.

It's widely agreed though that Sky News, specifically Sky News Today, has suffered since they plonked the presenter back behind the desk for their entire stint.
CH
Chie
The BBC News studios would look amazing if they were similar to this:

http://www.jagodesign.co.uk/images/large/aljazeera.jpg

(Aljazeera English)
ST
Stuart
Chie posted:
The BBC News studios would look amazing if they were similar to this

I must admit I have been watching AJ alot recently for decent news when the UK media seems to be overwhelmed with domestic stories done to death!

I don't think BH will look like AJ though, perhaps more along the lines of BBC Arabic with small studios but overlooking a nice newsroom.
R2
r2ro
Chie posted:
The BBC News studios would look amazing if they were similar to this:

http://www.jagodesign.co.uk/images/large/aljazeera.jpg

(Aljazeera English)


Now that's a studio. However I doubt if the BBC will do anything like it, especially not with the upcoming changes seeing news being sent into a separate studio to the newsroom.
GR
gregmc
r2ro posted:
Chie posted:
The BBC News studios would look amazing if they were similar to this:

http://www.jagodesign.co.uk/images/large/aljazeera.jpg

(Aljazeera English)


Now that's a studio. However I doubt if the BBC will do anything like it, especially not with the upcoming changes seeing news being sent into a separate studio to the newsroom.


The same designers who worked on sets and newsrooms for Aljazeera also designed BBC News 24/World and N6/TC7, also the floating light box that appears in N6/TC7 also appears in Channel 4 News' set, which was also designed by Simon Jago.
RT
rts Founding member
I do like the studio, but always thought it was a bit soulless.
MD
mdtauk
integrated newsroom and studio, which is like many US networks, and sky, different to how the BBC have their newsroom setup...
RT
rts Founding member
[quote="martinDTanderson"]integrated newsroom and studio, which is like many US networks, and sky, different to how the BBC have their newsroom setup...[/quote
That could all change when they move into BH.
MO
Moz
Note the AJE studio doesn't have a newsroom backdrop though, so News 24 will be similar to that I presume. Yes, it won't have a newsroom in front of the desk either, but I presume you rarely see that shot on AJE - just TOTHs and BOTHs for a few seconds?
JO
Joshua
Well the desk can turn around 360 degrees, but they never turn it. The newsroom is, as you said seen at the TOTH and BOTH, however the newsroom is seen more when they do the headlines, as they are presented from the second floor. Most of the time its not that busy anyway, you can usually see one of the other presenters wondering about somewhere though.

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