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BBC News Rebrand - This Monday

New look BBC News output from Monday (January 2008)

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PE
peterrocket Founding member
M@ posted:
peterrocket posted:
Close - but imagine far more red than grey, oh and a hint of black...


I've been told by someone who's seen the new look that it's predominately grey and white with a hint of red.


They didn't see the final thing then...
NG
noggin Founding member
peterrocket posted:
M@ posted:
peterrocket posted:
Close - but imagine far more red than grey, oh and a hint of black...


I've been told by someone who's seen the new look that it's predominately grey and white with a hint of red.


They didn't see the final thing then...


It is entirely possible that nobody has seen the final thing yet...
MD
mdtauk
can those who have seen it, let us know a few tidbits about the changes, I know you cannot describe them, or even tell us the theme, but surely you can answer some queries?

Are they a radical departure from the current ribbon-globe theme?

Will they require a new format to the structure of bulletins or News 24 hours?

Will the Regions be adopting the same theme / a variation of it / a personalised title sequence per region / stay as they are?

Does this re-brand mean a new website, if so will it finally ditch that awful old layout, and move to either web 2.0 like the frontpage, or a wider new layout like the BBC Wales homepage?

Will there be any changes to the News Multiscreen to make it as good as if not better than Sky News Active?

Will News 24, and the bulletins have distinct uses and looks in N6?

Will BBC World follow News 24's look, or go their own way like BBC Arabic?

Will Moira Stewart be featured on the idents? Heh Smile
PE
peterrocket Founding member
noggin posted:
peterrocket posted:
M@ posted:
peterrocket posted:
Close - but imagine far more red than grey, oh and a hint of black...


I've been told by someone who's seen the new look that it's predominately grey and white with a hint of red.


They didn't see the final thing then...


It is entirely possible that nobody has seen the final thing yet...


Well there is that, after all the last minute changes. It's interesting to see if it will be rolled out in phases or whether it's all one go. After all - the news and sport websites can't really refresh with an old banner and graphics in the old style.... can they?
NG
noggin Founding member
martinDTanderson posted:
can those who have seen it, let us know a few tidbits about the changes, I know you cannot describe them, or even tell us the theme, but surely you can answer some queries?

Are they a radical departure from the current ribbon-globe theme?

Will they require a new format to the structure of bulletins or News 24 hours?

Will the Regions be adopting the same theme / a variation of it / a personalised title sequence per region / stay as they are?

Does this re-brand mean a new website, if so will it finally ditch that awful old layout, and move to either web 2.0 like the frontpage, or a wider new layout like the BBC Wales homepage?

Will there be any changes to the News Multiscreen to make it as good as if not better than Sky News Active?

Will News 24, and the bulletins have distinct uses and looks in N6?

Will BBC World follow News 24's look, or go their own way like BBC Arabic?

Will Moira Stewart be featured on the idents? Heh Smile


Wait and see... You're getting nothing out of me.
PE
peterrocket Founding member
martinDTanderson posted:

Will the Regions be adopting the same theme / a variation of it / a personalised title sequence per region / stay as they are?


Yes. And quite nice it is too.
MD
mdtauk
peterrocket posted:
martinDTanderson posted:

Will the Regions be adopting the same theme / a variation of it / a personalised title sequence per region / stay as they are?


Yes. And quite nice it is too.


LOL

Is there nothing we can do to get some info out of ya...

http://intothewildfire.com/Dont-Tell.jpg
PE
peterrocket Founding member
martinDTanderson posted:
peterrocket posted:
martinDTanderson posted:

Will the Regions be adopting the same theme / a variation of it / a personalised title sequence per region / stay as they are?


Yes. And quite nice it is too.


LOL

Is there nothing we can do to get some info out of ya...

http://intothewildfire.com/Dont-Tell.jpg


Nope (obvious reasons!).... but I think some will be impressed by how the overall look has been developed!
M
M@ Founding member
peterrocket posted:
M@ posted:
peterrocket posted:
Close - but imagine far more red than grey, oh and a hint of black...


I've been told by someone who's seen the new look that it's predominately grey and white with a hint of red.


They didn't see the final thing then...


No idea. He told me last week that that's what he had seen and that he didn't like it much.
WO
Worzel
I don't know if this question has been asked before...

But why do the BBC insist on shoving News 24 into a studio/set that is no bigger than a broom cupboard? Instead of using N6 as the main studio - why not use TC7 which is much larger and would accomodate BBC News 24 much better than N6. In N6 - the ceiling is far too low and it looks like the presenters heads are touching the huge light cubes above them.

When they eventually move into Broadcasting House in 2011/2012 time, will they actually give the channel a bigger set or is that too much to ask.

I'm not a fan of Sky News really, but giving the presenters a decent video wall and space to move around would be a start and Sky News do have a far better set/studio and from what I gather most agree.

Is this the reason why some of the main BBC News presenters are leaving for Sky News - perhaps they suffer from chlostrophobia? Laughing Cool
NG
noggin Founding member
Worzel posted:
I don't know if this question has been asked before...

But why do the BBC insist on shoving News 24 into a studio/set that is no bigger than a broom cupboard?


Well 10 years ago News 24 was made by a totally different department (Continuous News - also home to CEEFAX/Online, Five Live and BBC World news production) to the One/Six/Ten and Newsnight etc. BBC News 24 had a tiny budget - and wanted a "bright and breezy, informal" look presented from a newsroom not a studio.

That is why they have an office based set and a gallery designed to be run by two or three people - and with the production values that delivers.

Of course they are now all one big family - and News 24 and BBC One bulletins will be sharing the more studio-like studio previously used by BBC One bulletins.

However the shows currently in the large news studio - particularly Newsnight, Newsnight Review, The Andrew Marr Show and The Politics Show all really need the higher production values that the studio delivers - as they are not "News" programmes per se - and have an expectation of higher values. There is also the issue that Newsround pay to use that studio - as Newsround is not a BBC News production, but is made by BBC Children's using BBC News facilities. If Newsround were shunted into a broom cupboard by News they'd lose a chunk of income I suspect...

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Instead of using N6 as the main studio - why not use TC7 which is much larger and would accomodate BBC News 24 much better than N6, the ceiling is far too low and it looks like the presenters heads are touching the huge light cubes above them.


News 24 in the large studio would be a bit odd though - they wouldn't be able to put a newsroom in the space - so you'd end up with two presenters in an aircraft hangar in silence for much of the time - or would waste a lot of the space.

I think the real question is why is News 24 going into a studio at all - when a newsroom backdrop is the key to a continuous news channel feeling like a news operation and not a bulletin. Even a mocked up newsroom - as ITV have and had - doesn't really do it.

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When they eventually move into Broadcasting House in 2011/2012 time, will they actually give the channel a bigger set or is that too much to ask.

I'm not a fan of Sky News really, but giving the presenters a decent video wall and space to move around would be a start.


But Sky have a newsroom in their studio...

Though you have to ask WHY do presenters need to walk around ?
TV
TVN
I know it might be unpopular with some on here but I would be willing to throw a parade for them if they would bring back voice over annos ("The Ten O'Clock News from the BBC with Huw Edwards" and so on) it sounds professional and gives the newsreaders the credit they deserve as now not many of the regions announce the nationals readers (particularly at six)

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