MO
They're mothballing World's studio and gallery to save money.
Can we please use a new term for mothballing! It got annoying the second time someone said it!
What do you mean? What's wrong with mothballing?
the eye posted:
Moz posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
I thought World was moving into News 24's studio, wouldn't that free up a gallery?
They're mothballing World's studio and gallery to save money.
Can we please use a new term for mothballing! It got annoying the second time someone said it!
What do you mean? What's wrong with mothballing?
MO
It's not going to be scrapped, just not used, but kept in situ in case the need a studio one day - that's what I understand by 'mothballed'!
martinDTanderson posted:
I didn't realise the Gallery was being scrapped too. I wonder what will happen with the equipment, perhaps they could extend the National's gallery with World's equipment so they can have two channel's outputs from one gallery...
It's not going to be scrapped, just not used, but kept in situ in case the need a studio one day - that's what I understand by 'mothballed'!
NG
They aren't scrapping World's current gallery equipment - they are mothballing it. (Can't think of another word - mothball describes it precisely - for those people who know what mothballs are used for...)
In other words the current world gallery remains pretty much intact so that in emergencies - say if the News Centre (which the current World gallery is NOT in) is evacuated.
Even if the equipment were scrapped - you wouldn't re-use it. The current BBC World, BBC News 24 and BBC One galleries are nearly identical in equipment terms, all between 8 and 10 years old, and much of the kit is reaching the end of its life. You wouldn't want to re-use it in another gallery - you'd want to put it in a skip...
noggin
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martinDTanderson posted:
I didn't realise the Gallery was being scrapped too. I wonder what will happen with the equipment, perhaps they could extend the National's gallery with World's equipment so they can have two channel's outputs from one gallery...
They aren't scrapping World's current gallery equipment - they are mothballing it. (Can't think of another word - mothball describes it precisely - for those people who know what mothballs are used for...)
In other words the current world gallery remains pretty much intact so that in emergencies - say if the News Centre (which the current World gallery is NOT in) is evacuated.
Even if the equipment were scrapped - you wouldn't re-use it. The current BBC World, BBC News 24 and BBC One galleries are nearly identical in equipment terms, all between 8 and 10 years old, and much of the kit is reaching the end of its life. You wouldn't want to re-use it in another gallery - you'd want to put it in a skip...
NG
That is what mothballing means. Preserving in a workable manner, whilst unused, ready for use at a later date. It is NOT the same as decommissioning, which means taking it apart rendering it unusable. Of course some non-essential gear may be removed but not essential stuff.
The same equipment in the other two studios is being junked as it is past the end of its capital life - and increasingly difficult to maintain. Vision Mixers of a similar vintage from other manufacturers, for example, are now being maintained with bits bought at car boot sales. (I'm not joking... Some of them had old PC hardware in them that is no longer available)
noggin
Founding member
martinDTanderson posted:
yes yes technically it will remain locked tight, but they wont just leave all the equipment in there unused, surely...
That is what mothballing means. Preserving in a workable manner, whilst unused, ready for use at a later date. It is NOT the same as decommissioning, which means taking it apart rendering it unusable. Of course some non-essential gear may be removed but not essential stuff.
The same equipment in the other two studios is being junked as it is past the end of its capital life - and increasingly difficult to maintain. Vision Mixers of a similar vintage from other manufacturers, for example, are now being maintained with bits bought at car boot sales. (I'm not joking... Some of them had old PC hardware in them that is no longer available)
MO
That is what mothballing means. Preserving in a workable manner, whilst unused, ready for use at a later date. It is NOT the same as decommissioning, which means taking it apart rendering it unusable. Of course some non-essential gear may be removed but not essential stuff.
The same equipment in the other two studios is being junked as it is past the end of its capital life - and increasingly difficult to maintain. Vision Mixers of a similar vintage from other manufacturers, for example, are now being maintained with bits bought at car boot sales. (I'm not joking... Some of them had old PC hardware in them that is no longer available)
So have they started this process already noggin? Could they swap old bits of kit for the new stuff in N6 or TC7 between bulletins, or is it going to be N6 shuts totally while it's recommissioned, then TC7 is shut for the same?
noggin posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
yes yes technically it will remain locked tight, but they wont just leave all the equipment in there unused, surely...
That is what mothballing means. Preserving in a workable manner, whilst unused, ready for use at a later date. It is NOT the same as decommissioning, which means taking it apart rendering it unusable. Of course some non-essential gear may be removed but not essential stuff.
The same equipment in the other two studios is being junked as it is past the end of its capital life - and increasingly difficult to maintain. Vision Mixers of a similar vintage from other manufacturers, for example, are now being maintained with bits bought at car boot sales. (I'm not joking... Some of them had old PC hardware in them that is no longer available)
So have they started this process already noggin? Could they swap old bits of kit for the new stuff in N6 or TC7 between bulletins, or is it going to be N6 shuts totally while it's recommissioned, then TC7 is shut for the same?
JR
That is what mothballing means. Preserving in a workable manner, whilst unused, ready for use at a later date. It is NOT the same as decommissioning, which means taking it apart rendering it unusable. Of course some non-essential gear may be removed but not essential stuff.
The same equipment in the other two studios is being junked as it is past the end of its capital life - and increasingly difficult to maintain. Vision Mixers of a similar vintage from other manufacturers, for example, are now being maintained with bits bought at car boot sales. (I'm not joking... Some of them had old PC hardware in them that is no longer available)
So have they started this process already noggin? Could they swap old bits of kit for the new stuff in N6 or TC7 between bulletins, or is it going to be N6 shuts totally while it's recommissioned, then TC7 is shut for the same?
AIUI, VizRT is installed in N6, TC7, the News 24 set and the BBC World set. This is because N24 and World have come from TC7 and N6 before. However, I'm guessing they are presently only licensed to use two installations at once, which is why the non-rolling bulletins use Big Ted for the graphics.
Moz posted:
noggin posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
yes yes technically it will remain locked tight, but they wont just leave all the equipment in there unused, surely...
That is what mothballing means. Preserving in a workable manner, whilst unused, ready for use at a later date. It is NOT the same as decommissioning, which means taking it apart rendering it unusable. Of course some non-essential gear may be removed but not essential stuff.
The same equipment in the other two studios is being junked as it is past the end of its capital life - and increasingly difficult to maintain. Vision Mixers of a similar vintage from other manufacturers, for example, are now being maintained with bits bought at car boot sales. (I'm not joking... Some of them had old PC hardware in them that is no longer available)
So have they started this process already noggin? Could they swap old bits of kit for the new stuff in N6 or TC7 between bulletins, or is it going to be N6 shuts totally while it's recommissioned, then TC7 is shut for the same?
AIUI, VizRT is installed in N6, TC7, the News 24 set and the BBC World set. This is because N24 and World have come from TC7 and N6 before. However, I'm guessing they are presently only licensed to use two installations at once, which is why the non-rolling bulletins use Big Ted for the graphics.