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BBC News Rebrand - This Monday

New look BBC News output from Monday (January 2008)

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MD
mdtauk
Jugalug posted:
the eye posted:
Its a crappy Skyline which looks hideous during the day, don't see the superiority myself.


I disagree - I think it looks very nice. Admittedly better at night, but still very nice. However, I do appreciate your opinion.


I like the skyline, and appreciate the addition of blue to the sets. Its a shame there isn't more movement, and more variety of lighting colours though, just look at ITV News at Ten's backdrop for an example Smile

http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2008/01/10/NewsAtTen460.jpg
http://tvnews.thetvroomplus.com/images-news/bbc/2007/ten-17.jpg
JO
Joe
I agree with that - nice that it isn't all red, or black, or white. Also, it gives the feeling of depth. With just some sort of still from the titles, it would literally feel like a shoebox, not very exciting.
MD
mdtauk
Jugalug posted:
I agree with that - nice that it isn't all red, or black, or white. Also, it gives the feeling of depth. With just some sort of still from the titles, it would literally feel like a shoebox, not very exciting.


Just to note, it wouldn't be a still, it would be moving lol
GI
ginnyfan
I love the ITV background, it looks so real.

I like Martin's mocks too.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Noggin makes a valid point above - in that all the news output on BBC 1 and 2 is single presenter driven these days. I for one hope that the re-branding - whenever it may occur - moves away from single presenter anchoring for at least some of the bulletins, most probably the Six and/or Ten.

For me, both of those programmes (the Nine actually, as opposed to the Ten) were at their best when double-headed. Indeed, I hope World moves back to two presenters also for their key bulletins, as opposed to the current monotony of one for the entire 24 hours.
MO
Moz
I disagree with two of the posts above!

Firstly, while I admire the NaT backdrop, I think it's a bit over the top. They actually do a very over-pronounced swoop of the studio at the start just to show it off. For the rest of the programme, you don't notice the depth because 90% of the shots are fixed. Pointless.

Secondly, I prefer the nationals with just one presenter. Rolling news suits two presenters (it's actually necessary for obvious reasons - something Sky seems to have forgot!), while I think it's less important for a planned news summary. I used to think that two presenters was better as it added to the variety, but thinking about it I now think it makes it easier to concentrate on the news if there's less gimmicks, and just one presenter. All the main US bulletins have always had one presenter haven't they?
SN
SN2005
Moz posted:
I disagree with two of the posts above!

Firstly, while I admire the NaT backdrop, I think it's a bit over the top. They actually do a very over-pronounced swoop of the studio at the start just to show it off. For the rest of the programme, you don't notice the depth because 90% of the shots are fixed. Pointless.

Secondly, I prefer the nationals with just one presenter. Rolling news suits two presenters (it's actually necessary for obvious reasons - something Sky seems to have forgot!), while I think it's less important for a planned news summary. I used to think that two presenters was better as it added to the variety, but thinking about it I now think it makes it easier to concentrate on the news if there's less gimmicks, and just one presenter. All the main US bulletins have always had one presenter haven't they?


Personally I love the fun and frolics that a two-presenter dream team can bring to a show.

And I wouldn't draw on the US examples too much, they're hardly examples of journalistic virtue and I would hate to imagine the ten becoming like 'NBC Nightly News' with a set complete with all the sheepish charisma of a show-home's kitchen.
NG
noggin Founding member
BBC WORLD posted:
Noggin makes a valid point above - in that all the news output on BBC 1 and 2 is single presenter driven these days. I for one hope that the re-branding - whenever it may occur - moves away from single presenter anchoring for at least some of the bulletins, most probably the Six and/or Ten.

For me, both of those programmes (the Nine actually, as opposed to the Ten) were at their best when double-headed. Indeed, I hope World moves back to two presenters also for their key bulletins, as opposed to the current monotony of one for the entire 24 hours.


I would be surprised if the national bulletins returned to double-headed presentation in the near future. In the current era of cost-cutting it is difficult to justify having more presenters than you need.

Double-heading is very worthwhile on a rolling News channel (at its most basic one presenter can be speaking on-air whilst the other is being briefed, or is briefing themselves, on the latest developments) but is difficult to justify at the moment for a built bulletin.

There ARE strong arguments that double heading can make presentation more human - but they aren't overwhelming.
CH
chris
BBC WORLD posted:
I for one hope that the re-branding - whenever it may occur - moves away from single presenter anchoring for at least some of the bulletins, most probably the Six and/or Ten.


I most certainly doubt that, considering the six only just moved away from double-headed presentation in December.
JC
JCB
SN2005 posted:
Moz posted:
I disagree with two of the posts above!

Firstly, while I admire the NaT backdrop, I think it's a bit over the top. They actually do a very over-pronounced swoop of the studio at the start just to show it off. For the rest of the programme, you don't notice the depth because 90% of the shots are fixed. Pointless.

Secondly, I prefer the nationals with just one presenter. Rolling news suits two presenters (it's actually necessary for obvious reasons - something Sky seems to have forgot!), while I think it's less important for a planned news summary. I used to think that two presenters was better as it added to the variety, but thinking about it I now think it makes it easier to concentrate on the news if there's less gimmicks, and just one presenter. All the main US bulletins have always had one presenter haven't they?


Personally I love the fun and frolics that a two-presenter dream team can bring to a show.


"fun and frolics" Exclamation Confused:

Rolling Eyes
SN
SN2005
JCB posted:
"fun and frolics" Exclamation Confused:

Rolling Eyes


Liberally speaking, yes - I am rather partial.
BR
Brekkie
Certainly no need for the Ten to be dual headed.

If News at Ten had made an impact, perhaps it could have been on the cards, but I think they've proved the trick of putting two hosts on, which is intended to make the bulletins feel a bit more accessible, isn't needed at 10pm.


As for the Six, I think it's fine with one presenter, but I don't think George is the man for the job - he's always been better suited to the 10pm news.

I think most of the BBC's high profile female newsreaders are too "BBC" to make the Six more accessible if you know what I mean - though my choice would be Louise Minchin actually. She doesn't come across as as much of a bitch as the likes of Silverton and Raworth.

As for candidates of the male variety - Jon Sopel or even Nicholas Owen perhaps. It needs to be someone with that journalistic credibility, but a bit more family friendly than the likes of George Aligiah.

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