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noggin Founding member
dosxuk posted:

- VizRT commissioned in N6 to support News24
- Tweak to graphics on all nationals to utilise VizRT, with a possible N24 tweak to match

The One, Six and Ten have been using VizRT full-frame graphics for longer than News 24 and BBC World. They were trialled on BBC One bulletins before they were rolled out elsewhere. (These are graphics that journalists create on their desktop within templates, rather than being designed from a template by a designer)

The one area BBC One doesn't currently use VizRT for is lower third name supers - they are still sourced from an Aston, which News 24 and World stopped using when they introduced TOG - since replaced by a separate VizRT system for name and story supers, clock, ticker etc.

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On a slightly different note, does anyone know whats happening about the News 24 gallery / presentation gallery?


There isn't a separate presentation gallery for News 24. The main gallery is the only gallery. There is a second vision mixer (but it doesn't have any sound facilities) in the News 24 live graphics area - but this isn't used for presentation purposes, it is used for preparing complex graphics on a separate vision mixer (as the main mixer remains on-air 24/7)

It is possible to route recorded programmes or outside sources directly to the network feed to take the sound and vision mixers out of circuit to pre-record an interview, but this is done relatively rarely. It is also possible to route the live graphics mixer downstream of the main mixer, to allow the main output to be pushed back and more graphics added (which was more common in previous looks than now)

This live graphics area was introduced when the News 24 studio was out of service for a number of weeks when the channel came from the 6th floor CSO studio.

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Currently they share, with the output of the gallery fed to transmission, but with them moving to N6, will they gain a seperate, small pres gallery, to enable them to opt out of the main gallery?

I suspect - as now - they will be able to switch a source other than the main gallery vision and sound mixers to the News 24 network.
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Or will they gain some pres facilities from Red Bee?


I VERY much doubt that - these changes are about saving money - not spending it!
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dosxuk
TBH I doubted they will involve Red Bee...

I can see much more need to be able to bypass the N6 gallery than they currently do though. Any form of pre-record or rehearsal is going to want access to the mixer, possibly interfering with N24. Personally if I was speccing the refit, I would want a small (4 input?) switcher downstream of the main gallery to enable me to cut up selected outside sources, the main gallery, a camera in the newsroom (handy for opting out of nationals in breaking news situations) or VT, with a sound mixer to support. Small expense for great flexibility - normal operations through the normal N6 gallery, extraordinary through a second small (minimal staffing) gallery.

This 'second mixer' could even be what normally gets used to key N24 lower thirds onto the N6 output...

(Sorry if I didn't make it clearer I knew their gallery fed directly to transmission without a pres gallery)
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mdtauk
Could they not continue using News 24's Gallery or even World's but have it linked to N6 as well as the Nationals current gallery. So both galleries will take the same feeds and studio camera footage, but you could have two separate vision mixers for each channel. They would still save money by not having to worry about set dressing, additional reporters and presenters. And if News 24 had to break away, couldn't one side of the studio then become off limits for the Nationals, and they just bring in another Desk they keep on standby
MO
Moz
martinDTanderson posted:
Could they not continue using News 24's Gallery or even World's but have it linked to N6 as well as the Nationals current gallery. So both galleries will take the same feeds and studio camera footage, but you could have two separate vision mixers for each channel. They would still save money by not having to worry about set dressing, additional reporters and presenters. And if News 24 had to break away, couldn't one side of the studio then become off limits for the Nationals, and they just bring in another Desk they keep on standby

Wouldn't News 24's ( N8's) gallery be unavailable as it would be in use by BBC World, and N9's will be shut down.
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mdtauk
I thought World was moving into News 24's studio, wouldn't that free up a gallery?
HO
House
Sorry if this sounds stupid, but doesn't programs like WNT come from a second set on the BBC World area? If so, when they shut down the N( (world studio) what happens to these programs?
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the eye
imnogoth posted:
Sorry if this sounds stupid, but doesn't programs like WNT come from a second set on the BBC World area? If so, when they shut down the N( (world studio) what happens to these programs?


They'll continue to come from Worlds new set??
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Moz
martinDTanderson posted:
I thought World was moving into News 24's studio, wouldn't that free up a gallery?

They're mothballing World's studio and gallery to save money.
HO
House
the eye posted:
imnogoth posted:
Sorry if this sounds stupid, but doesn't programs like WNT come from a second set on the BBC World area? If so, when they shut down the N( (world studio) what happens to these programs?


They'll continue to come from Worlds new set??
Which one? N8 (World's new) or where they are at present?
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the eye
Did I not just say NEW? Rolling Eyes
HO
House
the eye posted:
Did I not just say NEW? Rolling Eyes
Sorry - my mistake. Embarassed
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the eye
Moz posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
I thought World was moving into News 24's studio, wouldn't that free up a gallery?

They're mothballing World's studio and gallery to save money.


Can we please use a new term for mothballing! It got annoying the second time someone said it!

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