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DD
DarkestDreams
No, it's always TC7 (television centre seven)

The ten does look a lot more professional in there with the black floor ( like N@10) and moody lighting. And they got to use the full length with the sattelite report, I assumed the ten would use half the studio so newsnight could begin moving in their set
NG
noggin Founding member
matthew-hmm-9999 posted:

The ten does look a lot more professional in there with the black floor ( like N@10) and moody lighting. And they got to use the full length with the sattelite report, I assumed the ten would use half the studio so newsnight could begin moving in their set


Looked like Christine was in the gap between the two rostra to me (the desk is on the left, the Newsnight sofa on the right) - didn't look like it used the full length of the studio at all. The gap between the two areas is quite large though - as the studio is quite a bit bigger.
MO
Moz
According to my MediaGuardian Briefing via email...

Quote:
THE INDEPENDENT

BBC 10 O'Clock News relaunch planned for March 31.


But I can't find the piece on their website.
SC
Schwing
Moz posted:
According to my MediaGuardian Briefing via email...

Quote:
THE INDEPENDENT

BBC 10 O'Clock News relaunch planned for March 31.


But I can't find the piece on their website.


Independent Report on BBC 10 O'clock News

By all accounts, there could be trouble ahead...
MO
Moz
Ta! To repeat it here...

The Independent posted:
Revolt at the 'Ten O'Clock' over plans to de-clutter Huw

BBC executives hardly had time to uncork the champagne bottles and toast their ratings trouncing of Sir Trevor and the returning ITV News at Ten before their bubbles went a little flat.

There are serious jitters in White City over the future success of their own Ten O'Clock News bulletin with Huw Edwards, because of plans for a radical make-over, ahead of a relaunch pencilled in for 31 March.

Bosses at the Beeb have hired the design guru Martin Lambie-Nairn to mastermind the overhaul, despite his involvement in a 1999 shake-up that was less than universally acclaimed. Having in the past championed the idea of a "beige wall" behind the newsreader, Mr Lambie-Nairn this time advocates a white-washed look to "de-clutter" the studio for distracted viewers (presumably allowing them to better concentrate on Huw).

Television Centre lackeys are "extremely unconvinced" about the wisdom of the expensive redraw, many of them owning memories long enough to recall similar previous "management brainwaves". Beeb news staff have been impressed by ITV's retina-popping use of Big Ben graphical wizardry to herald the Second Coming of Sir Trev and The Bongs.

Of greater concern, the Ten O'Clock News will, in a cost-cutting measure, share Studio N6 with the rolling news channel BBC News 24, leaving engineers, editors, producers and Huw little more than 10 minutes to set up before going on air.

"There will be bodies in the editing suites," murmurs the mole, disturbingly.

White-washed look? Hmmm!

If it's white as the predominant background colour with interesting and well designed use of pictures to illustrate the story, then fine.

However white won't work well on the Barco cube background - the lines will show up a lot.
DO
dosxuk
Here's something else new to ponder about: BBC R&D have been working with BBC News in TC7 to test a new form of 3D tracking, to enable them to key out the screens and replace it with a virtual background, while still using normal cameras (not the FreeD system).

More info here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/fot/handouts/01_Real-time_3D_prod_tools.pdf

(Link from the BBC Internet blog)
PE
Pete Founding member
what would be the point of the screens then?
MD
mdtauk
Well If there was a 3D environment being displayed on the back screens, it could act like a real window, as the camera moves around, the angles of things on the screens would move also. And it would be less fake than the Green Screen were presenters can barely see anything.

White-washed look eh. That matches with the White and Grey we have been hearing about, but a white washed look for the studio, especially for the ten o'clock news? Sounds a bit dodgy to me, but as we always say...

We'll wait and see it on screen before judging!
NG
noggin Founding member
dosxuk posted:
Here's something else new to ponder about: BBC R&D have been working with BBC News in TC7 to test a new form of 3D tracking, to enable them to key out the screens and replace it with a virtual background, while still using normal cameras (not the FreeD system).

More info here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/fot/handouts/01_Real-time_3D_prod_tools.pdf

(Link from the BBC Internet blog)


I wouldn't read too much into that - it still requires conventional blue-screen chroma-keying, and the BBC R&D bods only used that studio because it had a suitable set without R&D having to build one of their own.

The technology COULD be used for future election programmes in that studio - but I can't see BBC News spending a LOT of money on projectors only to use them as glorified blue screen backdrops which could be done just as well by well printed bits of cardboard.
NG
noggin Founding member
martinDTanderson posted:
Well If there was a 3D environment being displayed on the back screens, it could act like a real window, as the camera moves around, the angles of things on the screens would move also. And it would be less fake than the Green Screen were presenters can barely see anything.


Not likely - realtime rendering of backgrounds displayed physically on-screen based on camera positioning is unlikely to work well because of the inherent delays in the screens and render engines. Chromakey backgrounds work better because there is only a render delay.

Also - if you imagine cutting an interview live with the screens background changing on (or a few frames after) every cut you'd end up with very confused presenters and guests.
MD
mdtauk
I hadn't taken that into account.
BR
Brekkie
Caught the beginning of the BBC 1pm news - sounds like the headlines were written by the script-writer who does the 8pm summaries!

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