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salfordjohn
Nowhere in any of the press releases does it say "BBC News 24 becomes The BBC News Channel".

BBC News 24 is to be renamed BBC News.

Only on here are people calling it The BBC News Channel.

So - after BBC News at Ten - BBC News continues, but viewers on BBC1 will get their local bulletins. I guess Huw will not say "here on BBC1" or "over on BBC News".
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Newsroom
Actually the reference to this video says 'New title sequence for the BBC News Channel




BBC Rebrand
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kitt22
salfordjohn posted:
Nowhere in any of the press releases does it say "BBC News 24 becomes The BBC News Channel".

BBC News 24 is to be renamed BBC News.

Only on here are people calling it The BBC News Channel.

So - after BBC News at Ten - BBC News continues, but viewers on BBC1 will get their local bulletins. I guess Huw will not say "here on BBC1" or "over on BBC News".


No when cross promoting it will be referred to as the BBC News Channel BUT on the channel itself it will be simply BBC News. Otherwise it would just be too confusing.
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deejay
noggin posted:
deejay posted:

A question that's been asked and answered many times on this forum! The original news studios at Television Centre were known as N1 and N2. Both were decent sized news studios with good height for lighting and scenery hoists.

Don't know about scenery hoists - but there are pantograph lighting mounts in the ceiling - but they are manual rather than motorised ISTR.

Originally N1 and N2 were roughly the same size with a common scene dock - but they modified the scene dock into an extension of N2 (so N2 gained a larger floor but with a "low end", and N1 only had scene access through N2)

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There was a scenery lift from the ground floor as both these studios are on the 6th Floor.

This lift was converted to passenger use some years ago. Originally because different news programmes had different sets, bulletins alternated between the two studios, but when the 'cut glass' look became the norm in 1993, domestic news bulletins settled into N2 and N1 became the home of BBC World News.


Haven't been up to the 6th floor in the last few months - but the two scene lifts were still very much non-passenger carrying last time I checked. Given that they are next to the 3 Spur passenger lifts they wouldn't need to convert them, and as the studios are still in use with sets you still need scene goods lifts.
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For a time there was a tiny studio known as N3, which produced See Hear Breakfast News and one or two other Chroma Key and presenter lead programmes.

It was also home to the original Working Lunch, was used as a second gallery for complex sequences, and I think had the wall to the newsroom knocked down when the Nazi-Nine (Lambie Nairn titles and newsroom backdrop) was in it? In the blue era where all nationals stuff came from N2, there was a small desk in N3 (which entirely keyed out for Working Lunch) which could provide a backup if N1 or N2 were out of action.

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N4 has always been a bit of a mystery to me, I;m sure noggin will remind me what that was!

N4 was the BBC Club. (As in "I'm just going to N4 for a few minutes"...) It was never a studio.

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N5 was a news studio built for the original BBC World Service Television Arabic service, mothballed for years, then divided into a new tiny studio and gallery on the old studio floor. I'm not sure it still exists, but most recently was used for the production of BBC World's Talking Point programme, a simulcast phone in with the BBC World Service.

Closed down a few years ago - it was terribly designed and poorly equipped and operated.

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N1 and N2 closed when N6 opened in the news centre (Stage 6). They were refurbished and transferred to BBC Resuorces and became TC10 and TC11. They were used for things like Top of the Pops at Play for UK Play and Liquid News for BBC Choice.

TC11 continued to be the home of BBC Three News until Dec 2005. Newsnight, Newsround and Working Lunch moved in for a month or so when the two main BBC One/Two news studios got Barco screen sets installed.

It is now used as an overflow for BBC Sport (now they only have one set in TC5) as well as a rehearsal studio for Saturday night shows.

It is a good soundproof, lightproof space - ideal for pre-records even if you don't use the studio kit (which is a bit low-end)

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Because news had taken semi-permanent residency in one of the main TV Centre studios TC7 (mainly Breakfast News, Working Lunch & Newsnight), it was deemed to be rather confusing to call a news studio N7, so this number was skipped and so the next two areas became known as N8 and N9. Note 'areas' - these aren't really studios as such. They are both newsrooms with sets in them and associated galleries. N9 was the first to go on air with the original News 24. News 24 moved to N8 when N1 was closed, and World moved into N9.

That takes us more or less to where we are now, just before the much talked about rejig of studios and mothballing of N9.


Thanks sir, I knew you'd know about N4! I didn't know that 'N4' was how TC2 appeared in the Spur on Matrices. I think regarding the scenery lift, I'm confusing the scenery lift in the central wedge that used to serve the two Presentation studios. That certainly was converted to passenger use, of course thinking about it now, the fact that N1 and 2 are still used as productions studios, there is still a need for the scenery lift... doh!
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TVMark
Was just wondering whether Newsround features in the plans for the relaunch on Monday, surely at the least there are studio layout implications......or am I wrong?.....
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freddy
deejay posted:
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For a time there was a tiny studio known as N3, which produced See Hear Breakfast News and one or two other Chroma Key and presenter lead programmes.

It was also home to the original Working Lunch, was used as a second gallery for complex sequences, and I think had the wall to the newsroom knocked down when the Nazi-Nine (Lambie Nairn titles and newsroom backdrop) was in it? In the blue era where all nationals stuff came from N2, there was a small desk in N3 (which entirely keyed out for Working Lunch) which could provide a backup if N1 or N2 were out of action.


N3 gallery was also used for BBC World Service Television News when it first went 24 hours c1991. The studio was a converted office on the 7th floor.

The gallery was also initially used for the Arabic service prior to its move to N5. I don't recall which studio was used though.
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Spencer
TVMark posted:
Was just wondering whether Newsround features in the plans for the relaunch on Monday, surely at the least there are studio layout implications......or am I wrong?.....


I guess it won't be affected as it comes from TC7, and hasn't ever followed BBC News' branding.
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Blake Connolly Founding member
noggin posted:
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For a time there was a tiny studio known as N3, which produced See Hear Breakfast News and one or two other Chroma Key and presenter lead programmes.

It was also home to the original Working Lunch, was used as a second gallery for complex sequences, and I think had the wall to the newsroom knocked down when the Nazi-Nine (Lambie Nairn titles and newsroom backdrop) was in it? In the blue era where all nationals stuff came from N2, there was a small desk in N3 (which entirely keyed out for Working Lunch) which could provide a backup if N1 or N2 were out of action.


Interesting. Didn't realise that was a studio with a wall knocked through into the newsroom, always assumed it was a set put into the a corner of the newsroom.

Was that the studio BBC World were using in 1997 with the newsroom backdrop (as seen on those Diana clips)? It was after they were had a similar set to the nationals blue cut glass look (AFAIK from clips I've seen), but before they moved into N9.
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noggin Founding member
Blake Connolly posted:

Interesting. Didn't realise that was a studio with a wall knocked through into the newsroom, always assumed it was a set put into the a corner of the newsroom.


That is my understanding of what they did - and when that look was ditched the wall went back up.

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Was that the studio BBC World were using in 1997 with the newsroom backdrop (as seen on those Diana clips)?


No - that was the BBC World Newsroom Camera position (not a studio) in the BBC World Newsroom on the 7th floor I believe (now BBC Online's Newsroom until most of them move down to the 1st floor "Multimedia Newsroom")
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It was after they were had a similar set to the nationals blue cut glass look (AFAIK from clips I've seen), but before they moved into N9.


Nope - that was the newsroom camera position used at the same time as the cut-glass blue look. When they were in the studio they had the cut glass look - but because the studio required more staff to run, for some bulletins they presented from the newsroom from a single camera (fewer lighting, vision, remote, floor staff required). ISTR that the newsroom was used overnight, and the main studio during the day.

There were some bulletins where the presenter was in the studio - but they used a live shot from the 7th floor newsroom camera as a backdrop for the CSO - occasionally causing funny results as cleaners cleaned the newsroom and sat in the chair...
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Moz
So any idea for the names of the programmes with '24' in the titles? What about these...

News 24 Tonight - BBC News Tonight
Entertainment 24 - BBC Entertainment News
Film 24 - BBC Film News
E24 - scrapped as it's terrible!
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Stitch08
Moz posted:
So any idea for the names of the programmes with '24' in the titles? What about these...

News 24 Tonight - BBC News Tonight
Entertainment 24 - BBC Entertainment News
Film 24 - BBC Film News
E24 - scrapped as it's terrible!


Is News 24 Tonight even going to carry on? You can barely tell the difference between it and a normal hour of News 24 now.
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TVN
Moz posted:
So any idea for the names of the programmes with '24' in the titles? What about these...

News 24 Tonight - BBC News Tonight
Entertainment 24 - BBC Entertainment News
Film 24 - BBC Film News
E24 - scrapped as it's terrible!


News 24 Tonight - BBC Evening News
Entertainment 24 - The Entertainment Show
Film 24 - The Film Show
E24 - ditto

Perhaps?

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