PE
Pete
Founding member
I hate the new titles, and how the hell NL have convinced the BBC to essentially pay them to return the music to 1999 is beyond me.
Sadly the flash vid isn't that clear but there are also loads of nasty paragraphs of text floating around in the title sequence which make it look even stupider.
Plus as for all the shows having the same music. Tsk. At least they could have done a proper new mix rather than just tweaking the 2007 music.
As for the regional titles, they're also inferior to the NWT sequence and even the original LDN look.
Crap crap crap. I do hope the countdown / studios make up for what we've seen so far.
Sadly the flash vid isn't that clear but there are also loads of nasty paragraphs of text floating around in the title sequence which make it look even stupider.
Plus as for all the shows having the same music. Tsk. At least they could have done a proper new mix rather than just tweaking the 2007 music.
As for the regional titles, they're also inferior to the NWT sequence and even the original LDN look.
Crap crap crap. I do hope the countdown / studios make up for what we've seen so far.
JO
Agreed.
I feel disappointed by this new look. I had fairly high hopes after seeing the stills, as they looked like they would be good animated, but it feels like the titles of a CBBC show rather than the grown up serious news service.
I much, much, much prefer red and black.
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Crap crap crap. I do hope the countdown / studios make up for what we've seen so far.
Agreed.
I feel disappointed by this new look. I had fairly high hopes after seeing the stills, as they looked like they would be good animated, but it feels like the titles of a CBBC show rather than the grown up serious news service.
I much, much, much prefer red and black.
NG
A question that's been asked and answered many times on this forum! The original news studios at Television Centre were known as N1 and N2. Both were decent sized news studios with good height for lighting and scenery hoists.
Don't know about scenery hoists - but there are pantograph lighting mounts in the ceiling - but they are manual rather than motorised ISTR.
Originally N1 and N2 were roughly the same size with a common scene dock - but they modified the scene dock into an extension of N2 (so N2 gained a larger floor but with a "low end", and N1 only had scene access through N2)
There was a scenery lift from the ground floor as both these studios are on the 6th Floor.
This lift was converted to passenger use some years ago. Originally because different news programmes had different sets, bulletins alternated between the two studios, but when the 'cut glass' look became the norm in 1993, domestic news bulletins settled into N2 and N1 became the home of BBC World News.
Haven't been up to the 6th floor in the last few months - but the two scene lifts were still very much non-passenger carrying last time I checked. Given that they are next to the 3 Spur passenger lifts they wouldn't need to convert them, and as the studios are still in use with sets you still need scene goods lifts.
For a time there was a tiny studio known as N3, which produced See Hear Breakfast News and one or two other Chroma Key and presenter lead programmes.
It was also home to the original Working Lunch, was used as a second gallery for complex sequences, and I think had the wall to the newsroom knocked down when the Nazi-Nine (Lambie Nairn titles and newsroom backdrop) was in it? In the blue era where all nationals stuff came from N2, there was a small desk in N3 (which entirely keyed out for Working Lunch) which could provide a backup if N1 or N2 were out of action.
N4 has always been a bit of a mystery to me, I;m sure noggin will remind me what that was!
N4 was the BBC Club. (As in "I'm just going to N4 for a few minutes"...) It was never a studio.
N5 was a news studio built for the original BBC World Service Television Arabic service, mothballed for years, then divided into a new tiny studio and gallery on the old studio floor. I'm not sure it still exists, but most recently was used for the production of BBC World's Talking Point programme, a simulcast phone in with the BBC World Service.
Closed down a few years ago - it was terribly designed and poorly equipped and operated.
N1 and N2 closed when N6 opened in the news centre (Stage 6). They were refurbished and transferred to BBC Resuorces and became TC10 and TC11. They were used for things like Top of the Pops at Play for UK Play and Liquid News for BBC Choice.
TC11 continued to be the home of BBC Three News until Dec 2005. Newsnight, Newsround and Working Lunch moved in for a month or so when the two main BBC One/Two news studios got Barco screen sets installed.
It is now used as an overflow for BBC Sport (now they only have one set in TC5) as well as a rehearsal studio for Saturday night shows.
It is a good soundproof, lightproof space - ideal for pre-records even if you don't use the studio kit (which is a bit low-end)
Because news had taken semi-permanent residency in one of the main TV Centre studios TC7 (mainly Breakfast News, Working Lunch & Newsnight), it was deemed to be rather confusing to call a news studio N7, so this number was skipped and so the next two areas became known as N8 and N9. Note 'areas' - these aren't really studios as such. They are both newsrooms with sets in them and associated galleries. N9 was the first to go on air with the original News 24. News 24 moved to N8 when N1 was closed, and World moved into N9.
That takes us more or less to where we are now, just before the much talked about rejig of studios and mothballing of N9.
noggin
Founding member
deejay posted:
A question that's been asked and answered many times on this forum! The original news studios at Television Centre were known as N1 and N2. Both were decent sized news studios with good height for lighting and scenery hoists.
Don't know about scenery hoists - but there are pantograph lighting mounts in the ceiling - but they are manual rather than motorised ISTR.
Originally N1 and N2 were roughly the same size with a common scene dock - but they modified the scene dock into an extension of N2 (so N2 gained a larger floor but with a "low end", and N1 only had scene access through N2)
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There was a scenery lift from the ground floor as both these studios are on the 6th Floor.
This lift was converted to passenger use some years ago. Originally because different news programmes had different sets, bulletins alternated between the two studios, but when the 'cut glass' look became the norm in 1993, domestic news bulletins settled into N2 and N1 became the home of BBC World News.
Haven't been up to the 6th floor in the last few months - but the two scene lifts were still very much non-passenger carrying last time I checked. Given that they are next to the 3 Spur passenger lifts they wouldn't need to convert them, and as the studios are still in use with sets you still need scene goods lifts.
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For a time there was a tiny studio known as N3, which produced See Hear Breakfast News and one or two other Chroma Key and presenter lead programmes.
It was also home to the original Working Lunch, was used as a second gallery for complex sequences, and I think had the wall to the newsroom knocked down when the Nazi-Nine (Lambie Nairn titles and newsroom backdrop) was in it? In the blue era where all nationals stuff came from N2, there was a small desk in N3 (which entirely keyed out for Working Lunch) which could provide a backup if N1 or N2 were out of action.
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N4 has always been a bit of a mystery to me, I;m sure noggin will remind me what that was!
N4 was the BBC Club. (As in "I'm just going to N4 for a few minutes"...) It was never a studio.
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N5 was a news studio built for the original BBC World Service Television Arabic service, mothballed for years, then divided into a new tiny studio and gallery on the old studio floor. I'm not sure it still exists, but most recently was used for the production of BBC World's Talking Point programme, a simulcast phone in with the BBC World Service.
Closed down a few years ago - it was terribly designed and poorly equipped and operated.
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N1 and N2 closed when N6 opened in the news centre (Stage 6). They were refurbished and transferred to BBC Resuorces and became TC10 and TC11. They were used for things like Top of the Pops at Play for UK Play and Liquid News for BBC Choice.
TC11 continued to be the home of BBC Three News until Dec 2005. Newsnight, Newsround and Working Lunch moved in for a month or so when the two main BBC One/Two news studios got Barco screen sets installed.
It is now used as an overflow for BBC Sport (now they only have one set in TC5) as well as a rehearsal studio for Saturday night shows.
It is a good soundproof, lightproof space - ideal for pre-records even if you don't use the studio kit (which is a bit low-end)
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Because news had taken semi-permanent residency in one of the main TV Centre studios TC7 (mainly Breakfast News, Working Lunch & Newsnight), it was deemed to be rather confusing to call a news studio N7, so this number was skipped and so the next two areas became known as N8 and N9. Note 'areas' - these aren't really studios as such. They are both newsrooms with sets in them and associated galleries. N9 was the first to go on air with the original News 24. News 24 moved to N8 when N1 was closed, and World moved into N9.
That takes us more or less to where we are now, just before the much talked about rejig of studios and mothballing of N9.
IT
I liked BBC World's slogan in 2000/2001: 'Making Sense Of It All'. I thought that was a great one and was sad - and rather mystified - when they dropped it.
itsrobert
Founding member
the eye posted:
Will BBC World be dropping Putting News First? Won't make sense "BBC World News, Putting News First" how about Demand a Broader View returning too!
I liked BBC World's slogan in 2000/2001: 'Making Sense Of It All'. I thought that was a great one and was sad - and rather mystified - when they dropped it.
PH
I don't think there'll be any slogan inserted into the News Channel's titles, at least I hope there won't be - it would ruin them totally. BBC World's current slogan might well be kept even though "BBC World News: Putting News First" sounds daft. I think 'making sense of it all' would be nice again!
EDIT: Does anybody know what is going to happen tomorrow? The blog posted a few pages back said the changes would begin on News 24 after the 10 O'Clock News on Wednesday 16th...interesting...
EDIT: Does anybody know what is going to happen tomorrow? The blog posted a few pages back said the changes would begin on News 24 after the 10 O'Clock News on Wednesday 16th...interesting...