CH
"At the age of 20, Byford spent one holiday doing work experience at the BBC, and has been there pretty much ever since. "If you are in my position, you are in a position where in '79, when you started off in a three week holiday job, you never dreamed you would be responsible for all the BBC's journalism," he says.
If only it were that easy today
adamcobb55 posted:
Interview with Mark Byford in The Independent - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/bbc-mark-ii-mr-byford-gives-the-corporations-journalism-a-makeover-808592.html
"At the age of 20, Byford spent one holiday doing work experience at the BBC, and has been there pretty much ever since. "If you are in my position, you are in a position where in '79, when you started off in a three week holiday job, you never dreamed you would be responsible for all the BBC's journalism," he says.
If only it were that easy today
GC
The interesting thing about Mark's comments about regional news not being identified as 'coming from bbc news' is the question it raises: do they REALLY want it to be?
How do Look North Hull or Point West refelct on BBC Journalism?
Does the division behind the Today programme or Panarama want to share the same values as cut and paste press release points west?
How do Look North Hull or Point West refelct on BBC Journalism?
Does the division behind the Today programme or Panarama want to share the same values as cut and paste press release points west?
AN
Apparently only 12 per cent of viewers of BBC regional shows recognise that they form part of the corporation's news output
Whaaaat! Where the hell do they carry out their research?
The Independent posted:
Apparently only 12 per cent of viewers of BBC regional shows recognise that they form part of the corporation's news output
Whaaaat! Where the hell do they carry out their research?
CH
Recent headlines on East Midlands Today:
Buses to have security guards
Mother's ban from seeing son
Parents shown round kidney unit
Council clamp down on city flyers
Anger over scrapped tennis event
Officers target underage smokers
Man's plea for breast reduction
It's not surprising that 88% of people don't consider their reigonal show to be part of 'the news', because frankly none of those stories are proper news at all.
Buses to have security guards
Mother's ban from seeing son
Parents shown round kidney unit
Council clamp down on city flyers
Anger over scrapped tennis event
Officers target underage smokers
Man's plea for breast reduction
It's not surprising that 88% of people don't consider their reigonal show to be part of 'the news', because frankly none of those stories are proper news at all.
MD
Someone has to cover these stories, I don't see a problem with that kind of agenda as long as the National News is covering the big stuff.
Chie posted:
Recent headlines on East Midlands Today:
Buses to have security guards
Mother's ban from seeing son
Parents shown round kidney unit
Council clamp down on city flyers
Anger over scrapped tennis event
Officers target underage smokers
Man's plea for breast reduction
It's not surprising that 88% of people don't consider their reigonal show to be part of 'the news', because frankly none of those stories are proper news at all.
Buses to have security guards
Mother's ban from seeing son
Parents shown round kidney unit
Council clamp down on city flyers
Anger over scrapped tennis event
Officers target underage smokers
Man's plea for breast reduction
It's not surprising that 88% of people don't consider their reigonal show to be part of 'the news', because frankly none of those stories are proper news at all.
Someone has to cover these stories, I don't see a problem with that kind of agenda as long as the National News is covering the big stuff.
EY
It's not surprising that 88% of people don't consider their reigonal show to be part of 'the news', because frankly none of those stories are proper news at all.
Hmm no matter what or where, in one way or another they are considered as 'news' just because its not politics or some big world event doesn't mean it isn't news.
Chie posted:
It's not surprising that 88% of people don't consider their reigonal show to be part of 'the news', because frankly none of those stories are proper news at all.
Hmm no matter what or where, in one way or another they are considered as 'news' just because its not politics or some big world event doesn't mean it isn't news.
GC
While news comes from press releases in part, the angle used should independent and not framed by the PR. Even the most mundane issue raises other questions.
The alarming amount of state pr that appears unquestioned is like a soviet state:
Buses to have security guards (PR)
Mother's ban from seeing son (Court?)
Parents shown round kidney unit (State PR)
Council clamp down on city flyers (State PR:)
Anger over scrapped tennis event
Officers target underage smokers (State PR)
Man's plea for breast reduction
Look at the story on a simple issue like flyers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7338283.stm)
No questioning of why (is it a money raising 'licence' or tackling a real public concern? No question of what criteria the 'licence' will need? No question on if it applies to political or campain flyers? Is the council trying to censor a group that might be taking issue with it??
If I am being harsh an the BBC TV report was better than the web , why leave such appauling news reporting on show.
I'm betting it aired on TV in that form, with maybe a talking head councillor and some walki street shots where the reporter ;magically' found a montain of discarded flyers, whilst liking it to melting icecaps, drowning polar bears etc.
If you a BBC reporter reading this remeber to ask the F* ing questions that matter; not just create a treatment thats just a live action version of the PR you cut and pasted, you hack.
So only 12% of the public recognise that regional news is from BBC News? Maybe acting like a news show and not The One Show will do the trick for less than £500,000
The alarming amount of state pr that appears unquestioned is like a soviet state:
Buses to have security guards (PR)
Mother's ban from seeing son (Court?)
Parents shown round kidney unit (State PR)
Council clamp down on city flyers (State PR:)
Anger over scrapped tennis event
Officers target underage smokers (State PR)
Man's plea for breast reduction
Look at the story on a simple issue like flyers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7338283.stm)
No questioning of why (is it a money raising 'licence' or tackling a real public concern? No question of what criteria the 'licence' will need? No question on if it applies to political or campain flyers? Is the council trying to censor a group that might be taking issue with it??
If I am being harsh an the BBC TV report was better than the web , why leave such appauling news reporting on show.
I'm betting it aired on TV in that form, with maybe a talking head councillor and some walki street shots where the reporter ;magically' found a montain of discarded flyers, whilst liking it to melting icecaps, drowning polar bears etc.
If you a BBC reporter reading this remeber to ask the F* ing questions that matter; not just create a treatment thats just a live action version of the PR you cut and pasted, you hack.
So only 12% of the public recognise that regional news is from BBC News? Maybe acting like a news show and not The One Show will do the trick for less than £500,000
ZS
I'm surprised the 1999 News 24 design by Lambie-Narin is considered by some of the guys here as the weakest of the BBC News corperate looks. It's what go me to watching BBC News 24 in the first place, and my main reason for buying a Freeview box before Freeview was actually launched.
To me, this upcoming new look already sets to better that of the 2003 and 2007 red and black design.
To me, this upcoming new look already sets to better that of the 2003 and 2007 red and black design.