JO
You're kidding right? Matt is very patronising, have you never seen WNA?
I must agree with the eye (I know - controversial). Watching him on the six tonight he was very patronising, adding silly little comments e.g. when he was talking about fuel, he said something along the lines of, "fuel prices are going down at last (bet you're glad to hear that)" which I really dislike.
Yes, I agree, and it happened for most of the programme. E.g. when Ben threw back to Matt, Matt said something like ''a slightly older Ben Brown there'' and then moved on to his next comment which was ''Guess how many injuries from alcohol...etc.'' And his accent is too old fashioned for the programme, and while trying way too hard for the programme, he comes across as a very cold man, as well as somebody who's patronising to viewers who haven't enjoyed his own very expensive education.
chris posted:
the eye posted:
Breakfast News posted:
Got to say, I think Matt is great! Much less patronising tone than George...is odd though...maybe hes doing a Michael Peschard, and spending some time over here
You're kidding right? Matt is very patronising, have you never seen WNA?
I must agree with the eye (I know - controversial). Watching him on the six tonight he was very patronising, adding silly little comments e.g. when he was talking about fuel, he said something along the lines of, "fuel prices are going down at last (bet you're glad to hear that)" which I really dislike.
Yes, I agree, and it happened for most of the programme. E.g. when Ben threw back to Matt, Matt said something like ''a slightly older Ben Brown there'' and then moved on to his next comment which was ''Guess how many injuries from alcohol...etc.'' And his accent is too old fashioned for the programme, and while trying way too hard for the programme, he comes across as a very cold man, as well as somebody who's patronising to viewers who haven't enjoyed his own very expensive education.
SP
You're kidding right? Matt is very patronising, have you never seen WNA?
I must agree with the eye (I know - controversial). Watching him on the six tonight he was very patronising, adding silly little comments e.g. when he was talking about fuel, he said something along the lines of, "fuel prices are going down at last (bet you're glad to hear that)" which I really dislike.
Yes, I agree, and it happened for most of the programme. E.g. when Ben threw back to Matt, Matt said something like ''a slightly older Ben Brown there'' and then moved on to his next comment which was ''Guess how many injuries from alcohol...etc.'' And his accent is too old fashioned for the programme, and while trying way too hard for the programme, he comes across as a very cold man, as well as somebody who's patronising to viewers who haven't enjoyed his own very expensive education.
His accent really doesn't seem very old fashioned to me - and at any rate, who cares whether he speaks the Queen's English or if he has a regional accent - it makes no difference. Plus how do you know what sort of education he had and even if it was private school, again that doesn't make him a condescending snob as you seem to be suggesting.
His comments were a little cheesy and I would prefer the news to be presented without them, but he seems like a nice enough guy just trying to engage with the viewer. All in all, a nice authorative but friendly style.
Jonathan posted:
chris posted:
the eye posted:
Breakfast News posted:
Got to say, I think Matt is great! Much less patronising tone than George...is odd though...maybe hes doing a Michael Peschard, and spending some time over here
You're kidding right? Matt is very patronising, have you never seen WNA?
I must agree with the eye (I know - controversial). Watching him on the six tonight he was very patronising, adding silly little comments e.g. when he was talking about fuel, he said something along the lines of, "fuel prices are going down at last (bet you're glad to hear that)" which I really dislike.
Yes, I agree, and it happened for most of the programme. E.g. when Ben threw back to Matt, Matt said something like ''a slightly older Ben Brown there'' and then moved on to his next comment which was ''Guess how many injuries from alcohol...etc.'' And his accent is too old fashioned for the programme, and while trying way too hard for the programme, he comes across as a very cold man, as well as somebody who's patronising to viewers who haven't enjoyed his own very expensive education.
His accent really doesn't seem very old fashioned to me - and at any rate, who cares whether he speaks the Queen's English or if he has a regional accent - it makes no difference. Plus how do you know what sort of education he had and even if it was private school, again that doesn't make him a condescending snob as you seem to be suggesting.
His comments were a little cheesy and I would prefer the news to be presented without them, but he seems like a nice enough guy just trying to engage with the viewer. All in all, a nice authorative but friendly style.
BP
Matt Frei has been - by some distance - the BBC's best correspondent for the last 5 or 10 years or so. They all seem to want to get into news reading after a while so it makes sense to give him some bulletins to do.
They're different disciplines - reporting and newsreading - and he may not be as good as one as he is at the other. But he can't be any worse than Ben Brown - who's absolutely awful in my opinion as a newsreader.
They're different disciplines - reporting and newsreading - and he may not be as good as one as he is at the other. But he can't be any worse than Ben Brown - who's absolutely awful in my opinion as a newsreader.
SC
You're kidding right? Matt is very patronising, have you never seen WNA?
I must agree with the eye (I know - controversial). Watching him on the six tonight he was very patronising, adding silly little comments e.g. when he was talking about fuel, he said something along the lines of, "fuel prices are going down at last (bet you're glad to hear that)" which I really dislike.
Yes, I agree, and it happened for most of the programme. E.g. when Ben threw back to Matt, Matt said something like ''a slightly older Ben Brown there'' and then moved on to his next comment which was ''Guess how many injuries from alcohol...etc.'' And his accent is too old fashioned for the programme, and while trying way too hard for the programme, he comes across as a very cold man, as well as somebody who's patronising to viewers who haven't enjoyed his own very expensive education.
I've had the chance to watch Matt Frei both on WNA and on the Six and I have to say that his style of presentation is reminiscent of the "old school" of reportage. If any of the respondents on this forum would care to look at the reports of individuals such as Charles Wheeler, John Humphrys, Bob Friend and John Simpson, they will find that these reports tell a story. They instruct and they inform. Matt's delivery and presentational style is very similar - although his 'Guess how many injuries from alcohol...' may not have been quite how individuals such as Wheeler et al would have approached the story, the emphasis remains the same. If one looks back upon Wheeler's reports during the Watergate crisis (in which he told a story of 'a person who had risen from the deprived circumstances of a failed father in 1930s California') or those of Friend during the Vietnam War, one will see that neither the stories which Matt Frei files, nor his style of narration, presentation or reporting, are all that far removed from that of his predecessors. I would also say that it strikes me as ironic that so many of the people who contribute to this forum are those that are the first to criticise the BBC for dumbing down its coverage and adopting a magazine-style approach to a bulletin. Sat behind an anchor desk, either in DC or in London, Matt Frei has, ironically, raised the bar (I do hate that phrase but, somehow, it's appropriate here). Frei has brought to both bulletins, especially the Six, a level of credibility which has been lacking in recent years.
The problem, ultimately, lies with the BBC's choice of anchors. All too frequently, it would appear, the Corporation is willing to bring a correspondent in from the cold and place them in a studio and let them attempt to be the next the Anna Ford or Michael Buerk. Yet in so doing, they rob their division of correspondents who are more than just that. Ben Brown is more than just a correspondent and is ill suited to the studio, whilst George Alagiah is, at heart, a correspondent. Matt Frei, however, has managed to combine the two and in this age, when all are so critical of the BBC, is the only example of the Corporation's older age.
Jonathan posted:
chris posted:
the eye posted:
Breakfast News posted:
Got to say, I think Matt is great! Much less patronising tone than George...is odd though...maybe hes doing a Michael Peschard, and spending some time over here
You're kidding right? Matt is very patronising, have you never seen WNA?
I must agree with the eye (I know - controversial). Watching him on the six tonight he was very patronising, adding silly little comments e.g. when he was talking about fuel, he said something along the lines of, "fuel prices are going down at last (bet you're glad to hear that)" which I really dislike.
Yes, I agree, and it happened for most of the programme. E.g. when Ben threw back to Matt, Matt said something like ''a slightly older Ben Brown there'' and then moved on to his next comment which was ''Guess how many injuries from alcohol...etc.'' And his accent is too old fashioned for the programme, and while trying way too hard for the programme, he comes across as a very cold man, as well as somebody who's patronising to viewers who haven't enjoyed his own very expensive education.
I've had the chance to watch Matt Frei both on WNA and on the Six and I have to say that his style of presentation is reminiscent of the "old school" of reportage. If any of the respondents on this forum would care to look at the reports of individuals such as Charles Wheeler, John Humphrys, Bob Friend and John Simpson, they will find that these reports tell a story. They instruct and they inform. Matt's delivery and presentational style is very similar - although his 'Guess how many injuries from alcohol...' may not have been quite how individuals such as Wheeler et al would have approached the story, the emphasis remains the same. If one looks back upon Wheeler's reports during the Watergate crisis (in which he told a story of 'a person who had risen from the deprived circumstances of a failed father in 1930s California') or those of Friend during the Vietnam War, one will see that neither the stories which Matt Frei files, nor his style of narration, presentation or reporting, are all that far removed from that of his predecessors. I would also say that it strikes me as ironic that so many of the people who contribute to this forum are those that are the first to criticise the BBC for dumbing down its coverage and adopting a magazine-style approach to a bulletin. Sat behind an anchor desk, either in DC or in London, Matt Frei has, ironically, raised the bar (I do hate that phrase but, somehow, it's appropriate here). Frei has brought to both bulletins, especially the Six, a level of credibility which has been lacking in recent years.
The problem, ultimately, lies with the BBC's choice of anchors. All too frequently, it would appear, the Corporation is willing to bring a correspondent in from the cold and place them in a studio and let them attempt to be the next the Anna Ford or Michael Buerk. Yet in so doing, they rob their division of correspondents who are more than just that. Ben Brown is more than just a correspondent and is ill suited to the studio, whilst George Alagiah is, at heart, a correspondent. Matt Frei, however, has managed to combine the two and in this age, when all are so critical of the BBC, is the only example of the Corporation's older age.
SH
I don't really care who reads the news so long as it's not Huw Edwards. I find all Welsh accents to be terribly irritating but his is worse than most .
He is like an over-eager Welsh Border Collie.
The only person more desperate that Huw is that fool who presents the Breakfast News - he is such a non-entity I don't even know his name but sometimes his stupidity and poor attempts at humour make me so angry I'm almost tempted to turn over to GMTV to see just how fruity Richard Arnold's mincing has become.
Almost - but not quite.
He is like an over-eager Welsh Border Collie.
The only person more desperate that Huw is that fool who presents the Breakfast News - he is such a non-entity I don't even know his name but sometimes his stupidity and poor attempts at humour make me so angry I'm almost tempted to turn over to GMTV to see just how fruity Richard Arnold's mincing has become.
Almost - but not quite.
ST
During the 2pm TOTH today did anyone else notice that whilst Louise read both the headlines and first story on her own (with just her in shot), when they did the wide shot between the headlines and first story the male presenter (think it was Manish) was in position - it seemed very odd, does anyone know why it happened? Don't they trust him with the headlines or something!
SK
I think I read somewhere that she's back in the summer, so August I expect.
southwales posted:
Anyone know when Sophie is back on the 1?
I think I read somewhere that she's back in the summer, so August I expect.