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WH
what
Correct me if I am wrong - but are these the current World slots?

1-5am
5-10am
12-4pm
4-8pm
8-10pm
10:30-1am

That's 6 presenters across the day, in comparison with 4 slots (excluding 6 and 10) on domestic. I don't want to enter fantasy land, but with 10 presenters in total for domestic and World - surely there's a way around simulcasting at times that better suit the UK or better suit World?

They could knock it down to:

6am - 11am
11am - 4pm (shared with NC?)
4pm - 9pm
9pm - 2am (shared with NC)
2am - 6am (shared with NC)
CA
Cardiffian
Correct me if I am wrong - but are these the current World slots?

1-5am
5-10am
12-4pm
4-8pm
8-10pm
10:30-1am

That's 6 presenters across the day, in comparison with 4 slots (excluding 6 and 10) on domestic. I don't want to enter fantasy land, but with 10 presenters in total for domestic and World - surely there's a way around simulcasting at times that better suit the UK or better suit World?

With exactly the same number of presenters the World schedule could be:
5am - 9am
9am - 1pm
1 - 5pm
5 - 9pm
9pm - 1am
1 - 5am
with no need to simulcast with the NC mid-mornings from 10am - 12noon. The NC simulcast would then just be 7pm - 6am (excluding 10 - 10:30pm).

I get this is straying into fantasy schedule territory, but I'm not encouraging discussion of which presenter does what slot. I just can't get my head around the logic* of keeping the mid-morning NC & World simulcast, because as I've shown, World can do without the mid-AM simulcast with the NC by just tweaking the evening presenting slots and keeping the same number of presenters. Any UK daytime NC & World simulcast won't suit either channel, and definitely not World, as the NC and UK centric stories will by default dominate.
(*I suspect part of the logic is protecting the OS slot, and the less I say about my thoughts on that the better.)
Last edited by Cardiffian on 30 July 2020 9:18pm - 2 times in total
BB
bbc247
Correct me if I am wrong - but are these the current World slots?

1-5am
5-10am
12-4pm
4-8pm
8-10pm
10:30-1am

That's 6 presenters across the day, in comparison with 4 slots (excluding 6 and 10) on domestic. I don't want to enter fantasy land, but with 10 presenters in total for domestic and World - surely there's a way around simulcasting at times that better suit the UK or better suit World?

Could do:

World News:

5am - 8.30am (Bring back the morning back half hour bulletins, think they're needed again as business news is more relevant now)
11am - 3pm (Lots of UK news, and splitting at 11am allows for better afternoon bulletins for Asia which is one of BBC World's biggest markets)
3pm - 7pm
7pm - 1am (simulcast with NC at 9pm to allow for 10 rehearsal) - (long shift, but breaks at 10pm hour (WNA) and 11pm (simulcast with NC)
1am - 5am

News Channel:

8.30am - 11am (Simulcast with World) (NC splits from Breakfast at 8.30am to bring back 8.30 news / shorten long morning World Shift after back half hours brought back) - Also believe World viewing figures were low for these hours so UK centric news bulletins as present shouldn't be a major issue? World used to have a very short 9am bulletin IIRC.
11am - 1pm
1pm - 4pm
4pm - 7pm
7pm - 12am (brings back UK centric evening news, not always appropriate for World viewers)
AN
all new Phil
Let’s just close the sodding News Channel and have done with it. It’ll happen eventually anyway.
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IT
itsrobert Founding member
May I just point out that it takes more than the presenter to make a news broadcast. The hours that are simulcast could well be down to the shift structure of the production teams and/or other technical/commercial reasons. It's not just all about the presenters.
CA
Cardiffian
May I just point out that it takes more than the presenter to make a news broadcast. The hours that are simulcast could well be down to the shift structure of the production teams and/or other technical/commercial reasons. It's not just all about the presenters.

Ok that's a fair point, but the 10am - 12noon NC & World simulcast being proposed to be made permanent is obviously down to cuts. It might as well be presented to World viewers as World joining the NC for 2 hours of the latest UK focused news, just like News 24 used to join BBC World at 9:30am every day for half hour of World news. There's no point trying to please both the NC and World News viewers at that time of day.
Last edited by Cardiffian on 30 July 2020 9:42pm - 2 times in total
NE
Newsroom
I know everyone has their own views with regards to pres on world and now more so since there is so much simulcasting; BUT - I can’t bare LVG! (Lewis Vaughn Jones). Elevated like DAVROS!

I find him utterly unwatchable. World have a plethora of talent and personally I feel we are deserved of more than LVG.
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AS
AlexS
I know everyone has their own views with regards to pres on world and now more so since there is so much simulcasting; BUT - I can’t bare LVG! (Lewis Vaughn Jones). Elevated like DAVROS!

I find him utterly unwatchable. World have a plethora of talent and personally I feel we are deserved of more than LVG.

I find him somewhat bearable on the overnights (mostly because the alternative in that shift is the somehow worse Aaron Safir) but there's certainly plenty of people who I'd prefer to see on OS or other daytime shifts (including many of those I have previously criticised).
MA
Meridian AM
Even before the pandemic, CNN doesn't apologise for having a lot simulcasts of its US channel on its International channel.
Probably because it's ultimately an American company, therefore viewers must expect to see a lot of US news on its channels.

Same with BBC. Viewers around the world know BBC is British and would surely expect any BBC channel to favour British news.

Watching around the world as a casual viewer, if you put Sky News on, you know British news will take centre stage. If you turn on Al Jazeera, you expect to see more Middle Eastern coverage. Same with Russia Today, France 24 etc.

At this stage they should either merge the 2 BBC news channels into one.
Or at least rename BBC World News to BBC News - both channels under the same name, making simulcasts smooth.
CNN's International channel refers to itself on air only as CNN, the same name as their US domestic channel, and it works!
MA
Meridian AM
I know everyone has their own views with regards to pres on world and now more so since there is so much simulcasting; BUT - I can’t bare LVG! (Lewis Vaughn Jones). Elevated like DAVROS!

I find him utterly unwatchable. World have a plethora of talent and personally I feel we are deserved of more than LVG.


I agree. However, his wife, Hannah, is very good. She was a regular CNN London presenter until she went on maternity leave last year. Then 2020 began and the usual schedules went out the window, so not sure if she will be back on CNN or not.
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AN
all new Phil
Even before the pandemic, CNN doesn't apologise for having a lot simulcasts of its US channel on its International channel.
Probably because it's ultimately an American company, therefore viewers must expect to see a lot of US news on its channels.

Same with BBC. Viewers around the world know BBC is British and would surely expect any BBC channel to favour British news.

Watching around the world as a casual viewer, if you put Sky News on, you know British news will take centre stage. If you turn on Al Jazeera, you expect to see more Middle Eastern coverage. Same with Russia Today, France 24 etc.

At this stage they should either merge the 2 BBC news channels into one.
Or at least rename BBC World News to BBC News - both channels under the same name, making simulcasts smooth.
CNN's International channel refers to itself on air only as CNN, the same name as their US domestic channel, and it works!

Totally agree.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Even before the pandemic, CNN doesn't apologise for having a lot simulcasts of its US channel on its International channel.
Probably because it's ultimately an American company, therefore viewers must expect to see a lot of US news on its channels.

Same with BBC. Viewers around the world know BBC is British and would surely expect any BBC channel to favour British news.

Watching around the world as a casual viewer, if you put Sky News on, you know British news will take centre stage. If you turn on Al Jazeera, you expect to see more Middle Eastern coverage. Same with Russia Today, France 24 etc.

At this stage they should either merge the 2 BBC news channels into one.
Or at least rename BBC World News to BBC News - both channels under the same name, making simulcasts smooth.
CNN's International channel refers to itself on air only as CNN, the same name as their US domestic channel, and it works!

Totally agree.

Me too. I've always thought it's somewhat strange that the BBC seems happy to cater for an international audience at the expense of UK-focused coverage. I understand the commercial aspect of BBC World News but really the BBC's primary focus should be on the UK and anything they can sell internationally is a bonus. It's always seemed odd to me that the BBC is out of step on this with similar broadcasters worldwide. As has been said, the idea that CNN would prioritise foreign news over a domestic story is ludicrous. It wasn't too much of a problem in the good old days because the BBC had two separate news channels that really only came together during UK overnights when the numbers of viewers would be minuscule. That made sense. But now that the BBC is facing so many cuts, my view on simulcasting and/or merging of the two news channels is that the UK audience should always be the priority during waking hours.

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