. Finally, if you have the NC presenter on air before the papers, they have no time to chat to their guests and prepare for the programme therefore meaning that it would again, cause further inconvenience.
Then again Sky's Paper Review in the evening is longer than the Beeb's equivalent and the Sky presenter normally has a full half-hour bulletin beforehand and only however long the break is to chat to the reviewers before they go on air.
So it's clearly feasible to do so on Sky and their programme is just as, if not more, watchable. Especially given the financial situation on the BBC and the fact savings need to be found 'that's not the way it's done and it may not be convenient to change things'I'm not sure are the most compelling arguments.
There’s always an excuse why the BBC can’t do something its commercial rivals have done for years, or something that would clearly save money without affecting the quality on screen.
The argument here is that the weekend bulletins needent be presented by a seperate presenter. And I assume, the people arguing this point want it produced by the on duty NC team.
If this is the case, I find it odd that the extra workload is being put on. It isn’t just another “This is BBC News, I’m xx, The headlines at xx.” and then the same report that has been playing for the past four hours. In some cases it is, and I am not denying that, but most often it isn’t.
Now if I am wrong in saying that the NC team are going to produce these programmes and that the current team remain then the only savings that are being made are to presenters. Generally either Kate, Mishal, Clive or Reeta. This won’t save much in terms of salary, Clive, Reeta and Mishal will remain paid by the BBC for their other work. And if, only if, they were to cut their salaries then I highly doubt that the BBCs financial troubles would be suddenly saved. Not to mention the inconvenience it would cause to have one team trying to cover the NC output and a main BBC One bulletin at the same time.
If you want to save some cash, why not carry on simulcasting World and NC in the evening at weekends? Then, you have just one team working on output that is constantly rolling. One presenter down from two and we’ve seen it work for all this time.
If you want budget cuts, why affect some of the news outputs highest rated programmes to save a couple of quid? Millions view BBC One, thousands view the News Channel. That should always be their priority.
Because it isn't exactly difficult to present a weekend BBC One bulletin and anyone capable of doing a NC shift is more than capable of presenting one. The style and content of the weekend bulletins is not substantially different from that on the NC during the adjacent hours and quite frankly if a journalist isn't capable of reading a slightly differently worded autocue containing stories they are already familiar with and asking their colleagues the most basic of questions without significant preparation, they really shouldn't be in a studio based role.
If you want budget cuts, why affect some of the news outputs highest rated programmes to save a couple of quid? Millions view BBC One, thousands view the News Channel. That should always be their priority.
Because it isn't exactly difficult to present a weekend BBC One bulletin and anyone capable of doing a NC shift is more than capable of presenting one. The style and content of the weekend bulletins is not substantially different from that on the NC during the adjacent hours and quite frankly if a journalist isn't capable of reading a slightly differently worded autocue containing stories they are already familiar with and asking their colleagues the most basic of questions without significant preparation, they really shouldn't be in a studio based role.
I didn’t think this was about just the presenter though, and if it is, you’re barely going to save anything in terms of money.
If you want budget cuts, why affect some of the news outputs highest rated programmes to save a couple of quid? Millions view BBC One, thousands view the News Channel. That should always be their priority.
Because it isn't exactly difficult to present a weekend BBC One bulletin and anyone capable of doing a NC shift is more than capable of presenting one. The style and content of the weekend bulletins is not substantially different from that on the NC during the adjacent hours and quite frankly if a journalist isn't capable of reading a slightly differently worded autocue containing stories they are already familiar with and asking their colleagues the most basic of questions without significant preparation, they really shouldn't be in a studio based role.
Yes, but I think the Weekend BBC1 bulletins still need to uphold the same standards as weekday 1/6/10 programmes (as they are, sort of, the weekend equivalent) which is why current presenters (Kate, Mishal etc) are very good and proberbly more experienced at "big ish" BBC1 broadcasts where some (but not all) NC presenters are not.
Saving money by giving NC presenters, who might well be capable, more on their plate is a bit unfair when the current setup works. Thats just my opinion though.
If you want budget cuts, why affect some of the news outputs highest rated programmes to save a couple of quid? Millions view BBC One, thousands view the News Channel. That should always be their priority.
Because it isn't exactly difficult to present a weekend BBC One bulletin and anyone capable of doing a NC shift is more than capable of presenting one. The style and content of the weekend bulletins is not substantially different from that on the NC during the adjacent hours and quite frankly if a journalist isn't capable of reading a slightly differently worded autocue containing stories they are already familiar with and asking their colleagues the most basic of questions without significant preparation, they really shouldn't be in a studio based role.
I didn’t think this was about just the presenter though, and if it is, you’re barely going to save anything in terms of money.
What can be said of the presenter can equally be said of the production team. The differences in the BBC One bulletins compared to a typical NC half hour and the lunchtime bulletin are far from significant enough to require a separate team. Other than the occasional promotional 'report' for a forthcoming documentary or a piece of canned filler there is nothing in the weekend bulletins that hasn't appeared on the channel either in an identical form or in a form that requires no alterations to the script.
If you want budget cuts, why affect some of the news outputs highest rated programmes to save a couple of quid? Millions view BBC One, thousands view the News Channel. That should always be their priority.
Because it isn't exactly difficult to present a weekend BBC One bulletin and anyone capable of doing a NC shift is more than capable of presenting one. The style and content of the weekend bulletins is not substantially different from that on the NC during the adjacent hours and quite frankly if a journalist isn't capable of reading a slightly differently worded autocue containing stories they are already familiar with and asking their colleagues the most basic of questions without significant preparation, they really shouldn't be in a studio based role.
Yes, but I think the Weekend BBC1 bulletins still need to uphold the same standards as weekday 1/6/10 programmes (as they are, sort of, the weekend equivalent) which is why current presenters (Kate, Mishal etc) are very good and proberbly more experienced at "big ish" BBC1 broadcasts where some (but not all) NC presenters are not.
Saving money by giving NC presenters, who might well be capable, more on their plate is a bit unfair when the current setup works. Thats just my opinion though.
Having Ellie Crissell work entirely on the 8pm summary 'worked', but the summary didn't suddenly fall apart when it began to presented by whoever in the newsroom had a spare five minutes, which shows that it wasn't a good use of resources. The journalistic skills required for the weekend bulletins is exactly zero as shown by the fact they haven't changed content wise since Moira Stuart, who as the BBC liked to regularly remind people wasn't a journalist, presented them on a regular basis.
If you want budget cuts, why affect some of the news outputs highest rated programmes to save a couple of quid? Millions view BBC One, thousands view the News Channel. That should always be their priority.
Because it isn't exactly difficult to present a weekend BBC One bulletin and anyone capable of doing a NC shift is more than capable of presenting one. The style and content of the weekend bulletins is not substantially different from that on the NC during the adjacent hours and quite frankly if a journalist isn't capable of reading a slightly differently worded autocue containing stories they are already familiar with and asking their colleagues the most basic of questions without significant preparation, they really shouldn't be in a studio based role.
Yes, but I think the Weekend BBC1 bulletins still need to uphold the same standards as weekday 1/6/10 programmes (as they are, sort of, the weekend equivalent) hence why current presenters (Kate, Mishal etc) are experienced
Because it isn't exactly difficult to present a weekend BBC One bulletin and anyone capable of doing a NC shift is more than capable of presenting one. The style and content of the weekend bulletins is not substantially different from that on the NC during the adjacent hours and quite frankly if a journalist isn't capable of reading a slightly differently worded autocue containing stories they are already familiar with and asking their colleagues the most basic of questions without significant preparation, they really shouldn't be in a studio based role.
Yes, but I think the Weekend BBC1 bulletins still need to uphold the same standards as weekday 1/6/10 programmes (as they are, sort of, the weekend equivalent) which is why current presenters (Kate, Mishal etc) are very good and proberbly more experienced at "big ish" BBC1 broadcasts where some (but not all) NC presenters are not.
Saving money by giving NC presenters, who might well be capable, more on their plate is a bit unfair when the current setup works. Thats just my opinion though.
Having Ellie Crissell work entirely on the 8pm summary 'worked', but the summary didn't suddenly fall apart when it began to presented by whoever in the newsroom had a spare five minutes, which shows that it wasn't a good use of resources. The journalistic skills required for the weekend bulletins is exactly zero as shown by the fact they haven't changed content wise since Moira Stuart, who as the BBC liked to regularly remind people wasn't a journalist, presented them on a regular basis.
I think that's quite a bold claim that you'd need "zero" jounalistic skills to do weekend bulletins. Little unfair to say that current presenters, as mentioned, spend time preparing programmes with their team for you to then say that they need not to, basically. I think people underestimate TV journalisim sometimes.
Plus, most presenters on weekend bulletins have or do present 1/6/10 programmes on weekdays which, you cannot deny, does require proper TV journalisim.
I know this might be a controversial comment for this forum, but I don't believe the general public give a monkeys who presents the news. As long as they can do the job, generally it won't matter. I don't believe for a second that someone would turn off if Huw didn't didn't present the 10, and someone from the News Channel who they haven't seen before presented it instead.
I know this might be a controversial comment for this forum, but I don't believe the general public give a monkeys who presents the news. As long as they can do the job, generally it won't matter. I don't believe for a second that someone would turn off if Huw didn't didn't present the 10, and someone from the News Channel who they haven't seen before presented it instead.
When the BBC first started news bulletins in the 1950's they didn't put their newsreaders on screen for fear that a raised eyebrow or similar tick or expression would give an opinion to the bulletin. It wasn't until ITN came on air in 1955 that BBC faces were shown.
I'm not sure about national news but in terms of local presenters there seem to be a more personal feeling. Its as if the presenter of the bulletin has a stronger link or sense of identity with the viewers. I grew up in the 1980's watching Calendar being presented by Richard Whiteley and Maralyn Webb (I studied journalism as a result of watching them)
I believe it the same across the UK, Bob Warman at Central and Paul Frost at Tyne Tees. With the current situation I believe its important to have the same reassuring faces and voices.
I know this might be a controversial comment for this forum, but I don't believe the general public give a monkeys who presents the news. As long as they can do the job, generally it won't matter. I don't believe for a second that someone would turn off if Huw didn't didn't present the 10, and someone from the News Channel who they haven't seen before presented it instead.
I think that’s a valid point to make however I still think that the BBC have to present their programmes to a standard which some (and by no means all) NC presenters sometimes wouldn’t be able to uphold.