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VMPhil Granada North West Today
Wasn't that just for when they were testing the regions on satellite?
MI
TheMike Central (East) East Midlands Today
Did the regions always have the BBC One logo in the top left corner of the screen circa 2002?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiWYAAWGqhg

This appeared on digital satellite when the first few BBC One English regions became available.

Might have been when you had to press red for the regional opt-out, I think it was five regions that went live initially; I'm sure someone will be able to clarify.
IS
Inspector Sands
Did the regions always have the BBC One logo in the top left corner of the screen circa 2002?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiWYAAWGqhg

This appeared on digital satellite when the first few BBC One English regions became available.

Might have been when you had to press red for the regional opt-out, I think it was five regions that went live initially; I'm sure someone will be able to clarify.

It was 4 on the red button, plus London which was on the main BBC1. I can't remember how the red button channel was done - in the back of my mind I seem to remember it was one video stream with a quad split that was then shown in an MHEG surround. I don't hthink it used up 4 seperate video channels
MA
Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
Did the regions always have the BBC One logo in the top left corner of the screen circa 2002?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiWYAAWGqhg

This appeared on digital satellite when the first few BBC One English regions became available.

Might have been when you had to press red for the regional opt-out, I think it was five regions that went live initially; I'm sure someone will be able to clarify.

It was 4 on the red button, plus London which was on the main BBC1. I can't remember how the red button channel was done - in the back of my mind I seem to remember it was one video stream with a quad split that was then shown in an MHEG surround. I don't hthink it used up 4 seperate video channels


I thought it might have used four (576x 544) streams ? how many Red Button streams were there back then?
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MI
TheMike Central (East) East Midlands Today
This appeared on digital satellite when the first few BBC One English regions became available.

Might have been when you had to press red for the regional opt-out, I think it was five regions that went live initially; I'm sure someone will be able to clarify.

It was 4 on the red button, plus London which was on the main BBC1. I can't remember how the red button channel was done - in the back of my mind I seem to remember it was one video stream with a quad split that was then shown in an MHEG surround. I don't hthink it used up 4 seperate video channels


I thought it might have used four (576x 544) streams ? how many Red Button streams were there back then?

The BBC used to have capacity for six Red Button streams on satellite.
DV
dvboy Central (West) Midlands Today
It did as recently as July 2019, adding them to the EPG for Wimbledon and removing them them after.
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TheMike Central (East) East Midlands Today
dvboy posted:
It did as recently as July 2019, adding them to the EPG for Wimbledon and removing them them after.

Except originally the six streams were available all year round, until they were cut to 1 permanent RB stream as part of "Delivering Quality First". 2013-2019 saw the BBC do temporary summer streams. This will probably be delivered via the iPlayer / HbbTV app in the future.

One of the original six satellite streams was used for news multiscreen with six mini screens wrapped in a MHEG frame.
IS
Inspector Sands

I thought it might have used four (576x 544) streams ? how many Red Button streams were there back then?

Possibly, I really can't remember. I don't see how that would have worked scheduling wise - how sport and regional programmes shared.

I'm sure I remember seeing some sort of quad split of them.... that was the way that news interactive worked so I might be getting it mixed up with that
TI
TIGHazard Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
dvboy posted:
It did as recently as July 2019, adding them to the EPG for Wimbledon and removing them them after.

Except originally the six streams were available all year round, until they were cut to 1 permanent RB stream as part of "Delivering Quality First". 2013-2019 saw the BBC do temporary summer streams. This will probably be delivered via the iPlayer / HbbTV app in the future.

One of the original six satellite streams was used for news multiscreen with six mini screens wrapped in a MHEG frame.


The recent FA Cup first round matches indicate this.

Several matches available via iplayer, none available via the red button channel.
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deejay Oxford
This appeared on digital satellite when the first few BBC One English regions became available.

Might have been when you had to press red for the regional opt-out, I think it was five regions that went live initially; I'm sure someone will be able to clarify.

It was 4 on the red button, plus London which was on the main BBC1. I can't remember how the red button channel was done - in the back of my mind I seem to remember it was one video stream with a quad split that was then shown in an MHEG surround. I don't hthink it used up 4 seperate video channels


I thought it might have used four (576x 544) streams ? how many Red Button streams were there back then?


If I’m remembering it rightly, it was 5 plus London. Southampton, Birmingham, Bristol, Manchester and Leeds. These were decided based on size of local population. Initially it was on the red button, at 1800 only and included the whole six o clock news hour (heads, promos, 1830 and 1900 heads). I well remember being in presentation the first night and seeing at 1759:50 all four regional clocks appearing on the TX screens, having been involved in the planning of the whole thing. It used regional contribution circuits to bring the output to London, and getting all these lines ready for 1800 when regions were busy cutting local news items and sharing material was sometimes a matter of some “debate” when we phoned them up and asked for local output. The DOGs were added in London by a series of bugburners I think.

It could however have been four regions. Maybe I’m misremembering Bristol being part of it ...
Two minutes regions...
MA
Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
It was 4 on the red button, plus London which was on the main BBC1. I can't remember how the red button channel was done - in the back of my mind I seem to remember it was one video stream with a quad split that was then shown in an MHEG surround. I don't hthink it used up 4 seperate video channels


I thought it might have used four (576x 544) streams ? how many Red Button streams were there back then?


If I’m remembering it rightly, it was 5 plus London. Southampton, Birmingham, Bristol, Manchester and Leeds. These were decided based on size of local population. Initially it was on the red button, at 1800 only and included the whole six o clock news hour (heads, promos, 1830 and 1900 heads). I well remember being in presentation the first night and seeing at 1759:50 all four regional clocks appearing on the TX screens, having been involved in the planning of the whole thing. It used regional contribution circuits to bring the output to London, and getting all these lines ready for 1800 when regions were busy cutting local news items and sharing material was sometimes a matter of some “debate” when we phoned them up and asked for local output. The DOGs were added in London by a series of bugburners I think.

It could however have been four regions. Maybe I’m misremembering Bristol being part of it ...


I found this, that says London, W Mids, N West, Yorks, South (Scary to think it was 19 years ago almost😳)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2002/01_january/10/satellitenews.shtml
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London Lite Founding member London London
Four of those five regions mention are now on rotation for BBC One HD's "Politics England" programme which is the network playing out editions of Politics London, North West, Yorkshire & Lincolnshire and Midlands instead of the local playout suites.

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