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deejay2,974 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Central (South) Oxford
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Correct me if I’m mistaken but someone said the countdown plays automatically in the background on a loop in the Mosart running order and when all the trails finish playing out from said running order it joins the countdown in progress? Are the numbers burnt in for the final 90 seconds or are they generated on the fly?


Mosart plays the countdown at 60 or 90” to the top of the hour depending on which countdown has been templated to appear. It plays from a source that’s not generally used for anything else at that time of day (but is used during programmes). There are usually a number of trails in the running order up to the top of the hour and the directors run through them or drop them as required to make the maths work, joining the countdown to soak up the slack.

There’s also a numberless looping “countdown” which runs all the time and is used by news channel ahead of national bulletins on bbc1 that start at an odd time (often at weekends) and when there are reasons for starting a bulletin not at the top of an hour. It’s also useful on the odd occasion when the real countdown doesn’t start for some reason. It’s also seen occasionally during a breakdown, especially one that is considered to be temporary (there is a more formal breakdown slide and a recorded backup of the previous hour for more serious breakdowns).
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Rkolsen3,166 posts since 20 Jan 2014
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJn5SnO-FBc
Refreshed countdowns are up! Aired just before News at 5.
Hint: glowing numbers are gone


Correct me if I’m mistaken but someone said the countdown plays automatically in the background on a loop in the Mosart running order and when all the trails finish playing out from said running order it joins the countdown in progress? Are the numbers burnt in for the final 90 seconds or are they generated on the fly?


Mosart plays the countdown at 60 or 90” to the top of the hour depending on which countdown has been templated to appear. It plays from a source that’s not generally used for anything else at that time of day (but is used during programmes). There are usually a number of trails in the running order up to the top of the hour and the directors run through them or drop them as required to make the maths work, joining the countdown to soak up the slack.

There’s also a numberless looping “countdown” which runs all the time and is used by news channel ahead of national bulletins on bbc1 that start at an odd time (often at weekends) and when there are reasons for starting a bulletin not at the top of an hour. It’s also useful on the odd occasion when the real countdown doesn’t start for some reason. It’s also seen occasionally during a breakdown, especially one that is considered to be temporary (there is a more formal breakdown slide and a recorded backup of the previous hour for more serious breakdowns).

So would you say the first example is deadrolled and JIP’d until the trails/running order ends?
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deejay2,974 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Central (South) Oxford
Don’t think deadrolled or JIP are phrases used in the U.K. The numbered countdown runs at 90” or 60” to the top of the hour and is joined by the vision and sound mixers as required.
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Blake Connolly1,842 posts since 21 Apr 2001
London London
If deadroll = back timing, what's JIP'ing?


Join in progress. Often used in America if you've got an overrunning live programme and then join the following recorded programme at the point it would've been at had it started on time rather than play it from the start and run the schedule late or replace it with a short filler.

It's a term used at BT Sport (maybe came across from ESPN) but to refer to crashing into the second of two back-to-back lives if the first overran (would only happen with world feeds of course).