DE
That graphic just looks quite busy and not very well designed at all.
There is just too much going on with various fonts, various sizes, some capital and some lower case and too many blocks of colour. Also nothing seems to be aligned.
From a graphic design point of view it fails on every account! I can't think of one good thing to say about it!
Was this really created by graphic designers?
If it was created by a designer then some questions should be raised! While I disagree that it 'fails on every account' (actually it fits in with the BBC News brand reasonably well, though the red box at the bottom should say BBC Wales, not cricket), sport captions should now follow the BBC Sport branding rules and be in their colour and font styles.
ohwhatanight posted:
button-wales posted:
Here's two captures from Wales Today
Sport
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/walestoday_sport_.jpg
Sport
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/walestoday_sport_.jpg
That graphic just looks quite busy and not very well designed at all.
There is just too much going on with various fonts, various sizes, some capital and some lower case and too many blocks of colour. Also nothing seems to be aligned.
From a graphic design point of view it fails on every account! I can't think of one good thing to say about it!
Was this really created by graphic designers?
If it was created by a designer then some questions should be raised! While I disagree that it 'fails on every account' (actually it fits in with the BBC News brand reasonably well, though the red box at the bottom should say BBC Wales, not cricket), sport captions should now follow the BBC Sport branding rules and be in their colour and font styles.
OH
If it was created by a designer then some questions should be raised! While I disagree that it 'fails on every account' (actually it fits in with the BBC News brand reasonably well, though the red box at the bottom should say BBC Wales, not cricket), sport captions should now follow the BBC Sport branding rules and be in their colour and font styles.
I appreciate that they have used the current BBC colours of white, grey and red and also included an image of the new look in the background - but the layout and use of fonts and sizes makes the whole graphic quite unintelligable (sp?) As this could only be on screen for between 5 - 10 seconds my eyes do not know where to look and what to read in such a short time.
ohwhatanight
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deejay posted:
If it was created by a designer then some questions should be raised! While I disagree that it 'fails on every account' (actually it fits in with the BBC News brand reasonably well, though the red box at the bottom should say BBC Wales, not cricket), sport captions should now follow the BBC Sport branding rules and be in their colour and font styles.
I appreciate that they have used the current BBC colours of white, grey and red and also included an image of the new look in the background - but the layout and use of fonts and sizes makes the whole graphic quite unintelligable (sp?) As this could only be on screen for between 5 - 10 seconds my eyes do not know where to look and what to read in such a short time.
ID
Speaking of Oxford and Jersey...
Now that they've both asserted greater independence, with their new programme names, does that mean that the BBC One idents at 1759, and 2159 now bear "Oxford" and "Channel Islands" suffixes, rather than "South" and "South West"?
If not, I think they really ought to. Especially for Friday evenings in the Oxford region, seeings as they don't join the Southampton programme at all!
noggin posted:
Don't Oxford and Jersey both opt-back into the main programme's "Still to come" sequence - which has a kind of trail ahead punctuation?
Speaking of Oxford and Jersey...
Now that they've both asserted greater independence, with their new programme names, does that mean that the BBC One idents at 1759, and 2159 now bear "Oxford" and "Channel Islands" suffixes, rather than "South" and "South West"?
If not, I think they really ought to. Especially for Friday evenings in the Oxford region, seeings as they don't join the Southampton programme at all!
LE
The CI ones still say BBC One South West but for the 6.00 and 10.00 the voice over says "BBC One in the Channel Islands" I think (I don't watch very often as I get most of my TV through iPlayer now).
There's no lunchtime bulletin from the Channel Islands so that probably still says South West.
There's no lunchtime bulletin from the Channel Islands so that probably still says South West.
ID
Do Plymouth daytime/weekend bulletins bother including at least a token CI news story? (and did they ever actually acknowlege the islands (apart from just on the weathermap) for all those years before the St Helier service first launched?)
leftofmiddle posted:
There's no lunchtime bulletin from the Channel Islands so that probably still says South West.
Do Plymouth daytime/weekend bulletins bother including at least a token CI news story? (and did they ever actually acknowlege the islands (apart from just on the weathermap) for all those years before the St Helier service first launched?)
LE
There used to be token stories before the CI sub-opt launched and NO they don't include Jersey/Guernsey stories in the lunchtime and weekend bulletins (there's no weekend bullies for CI either).
The main reason is that the TV team in Jersey is too small to get stories out in time for the lunchtime bullies.
There are about 8 people working on the BBC Channel Island Sub-Opt and they're ALL Video Journalists.
So everyone working on the opt has to research the story, shoot the story and voice/edit the story themselves.
Some days there are only four members of staff on.
The main reason is that the TV team in Jersey is too small to get stories out in time for the lunchtime bullies.
There are about 8 people working on the BBC Channel Island Sub-Opt and they're ALL Video Journalists.
So everyone working on the opt has to research the story, shoot the story and voice/edit the story themselves.
Some days there are only four members of staff on.
MA
Do Plymouth daytime/weekend bulletins bother including at least a token CI news story? (and did they ever actually acknowlege the islands (apart from just on the weathermap) for all those years before the St Helier service first launched?)
Yes they did, certainly in the early 80s when I lived in Plymouth.
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
Do Plymouth daytime/weekend bulletins bother including at least a token CI news story? (and did they ever actually acknowlege the islands (apart from just on the weathermap) for all those years before the St Helier service first launched?)
Yes they did, certainly in the early 80s when I lived in Plymouth.
ID
Really?
That's really impressive, that such a small number of people produce a broadcastable 10-minutes or so of TV news each day! 
Any idea what the situation is at ITV Channel/Channel Report (for comparison)?
leftofmiddle posted:
There are about 8 people working on the BBC Channel Island Sub-Opt and they're ALL Video Journalists.
So everyone working on the opt has to research the story, shoot the story and voice/edit the story themselves.
Some days there are only four members of staff on.
So everyone working on the opt has to research the story, shoot the story and voice/edit the story themselves.
Some days there are only four members of staff on.
Really?
That's really impressive, that such a small number of people produce a broadcastable 10-minutes or so of TV news each day!
Any idea what the situation is at ITV Channel/Channel Report (for comparison)?
LE
I don't know for certain but they seem to have a lot more staff - especially technical staff.
When we go to a story with a single video journalist they will usually have a reporter and cameraman and sometimes two cameramen.
When we go to a story with a single video journalist they will usually have a reporter and cameraman and sometimes two cameramen.